Kalapse Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 That's not the first time Cabrera's done that either, he did the same thing to Quentin in Tampa. Hitters don't like it when a runner steals 3rd with 2 strikes, a guy running around behind the pitch is distracting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:20 PM) I have one in a drawer back at my folks home. From back when I was about 60 pounds lighter. I did just buy this sweet vintage WU truckers hat on eBay though Hey, It's the 25th anniversary of one of the best summers of my life! I think I have one as well but it was from when I was 9 years old. Might be a tad small for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) I have one in a drawer back at my folks home. From back when I was about 60 pounds lighter. I did just buy this sweet vintage WU truckers hat on eBay though Hey, It's the 25th anniversary of one of the best summers of my life! That team turned my interest in baseball into a love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:21 PM) Hawk said OC had nothing to apologize for because he got himself in position to score on a sac fly with one out. Feisty said he understood why JD would be annoyed by OC jumping around out by second base. Hawk said we needed the run and we got it. advantage hawk It's not even a debate. If we were down 2 or there were 2 outs, I could see why Dye would be mad, but with 1 out, an 0-1 count, and as the tying run, OC HAS to take 3rd there since it was so easy. I am baffled as to why Dye would not understand that, plus the pitch he swung at was clearly a ball. Edited July 10, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 11:16 PM) How did we win ugly? We came back from 5 runs down, hit a couple HR (Q), got a few clutch knocks (Lexi, Thome), and a break (the balk). The bullpen was lights out, too. There's a big difference between an ugly win and Winning Ugly. Even though we didn't make the Promised Land, '83 was a special season. So forgive the old farts their nostalgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:21 PM) Hawk said OC had nothing to apologize for because he got himself in position to score on a sac fly with one out. Feisty said he understood why JD would be annoyed by OC jumping around out by second base. Hawk said we needed the run and we got it. advantage hawk Plus, they had been talking about JD being distracted on the SB during the top of the inning. After OC scored, it was obvious something other than celebrating was going on in the dugout and Hawk and DJ made no mention of OC being annoyed. Then, after a pitching change in the middle of the bottom half of the inning, they replay what was going on in the dugout and DJ speculates it had something to do with JD striking out and being distracted by the stolen base. Hawk was right about OC doing a good job to take the base, but he got b****y with DJ for no reason acting like he did not properly explain what happened. Hawk is a grumpy old bat. Edited July 10, 2008 by Pants Rowland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:21 PM) Hawk said OC had nothing to apologize for because he got himself in position to score on a sac fly with one out. Feisty said he understood why JD would be annoyed by OC jumping around out by second base. Hawk said we needed the run and we got it. advantage hawk Because he wouldn't have scored from second on a single anyway? I understand trying to get to third with less than 2 outs but when you're distracting the man at the plate on a 2 strike count your actions becomes counter productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:26 PM) Because he wouldn't have scored from second on a single anyway? I understand trying to get to third with less than 2 outs but when you're distracting the man at the plate on a 2 strike count your actions becomes counter productive. He had one strike on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:21 PM) That's not the first time Cabrera's done that either, he did the same thing to Quentin in Tampa. [/b]Hitters don't like it when a runner steals 3rd with 2 strikes, a guy running around behind the pitch is distracting.[/b] This is true, except it was an 0-1 count when OC stole 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:26 PM) Because he wouldn't have scored from second on a single anyway? I understand trying to get to third with less than 2 outs but when you're distracting the man at the plate on a 2 strike count your actions becomes counter productive. It was 0-1, and the pitch was low anyways. Dye was wrong, OC was right. As much as people don't like OC because of his antics, Dye was just completely stupid in this case. Edited July 10, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 OC has always done that though even before he came to the sox. He's always tried to distract the pitcher while on the basepaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:24 PM) There's a big difference between an ugly win and Winning Ugly. Even though we didn't make the Promised Land, '83 was a special season. So forgive the old farts their nostalgia. Exactly. I believe it was the manager of the California Angels at the time (Doug Radar?) who mentioned the Sox were "winning ugly" for all the different ways they found to pull games out (they floundered until taking over first lace around the ASB and then went on a ridiculous tear to win the division by 20 games or so). It wasn't about ugly wins, it was how many ways they did it - HR, balks, stolen bases, defense, sac flies, suicide squeezes, pitching, you name it. It was a lot of fun to watch that team. Too bad Baltimore had their number all season and kept it up in the playoffs. Plus the Dibber forgot how to run the bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:20 PM) I have one in a drawer back at my folks home. From back when I was about 60 pounds lighter. I did just buy this sweet vintage WU truckers hat on eBay though Hey, It's the 25th anniversary of one of the best summers of my life! nice cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 O.C. and Dye will kiss and make up, its all good. In fact did you see Ozzie congrat O.C. for his baserunning efforts? It was clearly JD pissed off because he was 'distracted'. Its all good, im glad we have pationate players on this team. This team shows a lot of heart, sumthing we missed ALL of last year. Lets get the sweep tommorow with Buerhles!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Drew @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 07:10 PM) Where can I buy an '83 Winning Ugly t-shirt? I still have one . It's 25 years old now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:31 PM) Exactly. I believe it was the manager of the California Angels at the time (Doug Radar?) who mentioned the Sox were "winning ugly" for all the different ways they found to pull games out (they floundered until taking over first lace around the ASB and then went on a ridiculous tear to win the division by 20 games or so). It wasn't about ugly wins, it was how many ways they did it - HR, balks, stolen bases, defense, sac flies, suicide squeezes, pitching, you name it. It was a lot of fun to watch that team. Too bad Baltimore had their number all season and kept it up in the playoffs. Plus the Dibber forgot how to run the bases. I was a little off... The 1983 Chicago White Sox won their division, but Texas Ranger manager Doug Rader didn’t think they were all that good. “They’re not playing that well. They’re winning ugly,” Rangers manager Doug Rader said, sometime in August 1983. The remark quickly became a slogan for the 1983 Chicago White Sox. and... The “Winnin’ Ugly” remark was uttered by Rader before the four game series in Texas. That series started on August 19. The Sox took 3 of 4 and left Dallas with an eight game lead over the Rangers. and... 30 August 1983, Chicago Daily Herald, section 4, pg. 1, col. 1: Less than two weeks ago, it was Rangers manager Doug Rader who started the whole tempest by saying the first-place White Sox were “winning ugly.” Before long, T-shirts were cropping up in Chicago with “Winning ugly is no miracle on 35th Street” emblazoned on them. The idea became a rallying point for local fans and a bit of a sore point in Texas. It was a little bit like the comment Guillen made about the Twins being piranas, although he was complimenting them. 1983 is still one of my favorite seasons along with 2005 and the last year at old comiskey when they came up short versus the A's. Edited July 10, 2008 by Pants Rowland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 04:26 AM) Because he wouldn't have scored from second on a single anyway? I understand trying to get to third with less than 2 outs but when you're distracting the man at the plate on a 2 strike count your actions becomes counter productive. I didn't watch the game, but wasn't it just one strike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:31 PM) Exactly. I believe it was the manager of the California Angels at the time (Doug Radar?) who mentioned the Sox were "winning ugly" for all the different ways they found to pull games out (they floundered until taking over first lace around the ASB and then went on a ridiculous tear to win the division by 20 games or so). It wasn't about ugly wins, it was how many ways they did it - HR, balks, stolen bases, defense, sac flies, suicide squeezes, pitching, you name it. It was a lot of fun to watch that team. Too bad Baltimore had their number all season and kept it up in the playoffs. Plus the Dibber forgot how to run the bases. I believe it was Radar, but he was the manager of the Rangers. I'm going off memory here, and lately when I've done that I've been wrong. So take it with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 OC stole 3rd on an 0-1 pitch which gives Dye an RBI chance with just a fly ball. That would piss me off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 10:30 PM) It was 0-1, and the pitch was low anyways. Dye was wrong, OC was right. As much as people don't like OC because of his antics, Dye was just completely stupid in this case. Low?...it was almost in the dirt. How many pitches did JD swing at that were almost in the dirt today and completely out of the zone?...and he wants to blame that AB on OC?...WEAK. Dye was completely out of line tonight. BTW...Paulie was stellar tonight! Hope we see Wise in center tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dye needs to settle down. I'm not worried about this little tiff at all though. In fact, Ocab is starting to grow on me. He's 14/16 (I believe) in SB this year, and his defense has been f***ing impeccable since about 2 weeks into the season, he has made all the plays. I don't even care if he finishes 270/330/350, his defense at SS is saving runs. Great win, and big props to Q for busting out big time and giving the team a chance to win it. If he doesn't hit those two home runs this is almost certainly a bad loss instead of a great win. Javier on the other hand continues to suck. I've rarely seen a guy with such great stuff pitch so poorly for long stretches. He just seems to be a mental midget. I don't even believe in that s***, but for a MLB pitcher, he has no fortitude on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 That was a fun game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 being distracted by a baserunner is an unacceptable excuse at the plate, no matter how many strikes are on you. sack up dye. Sounds like something alfonso soriano would be upset about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 That was a fun game. Two in a row in KC that have been real fun. Can you imagine how the Royals feel blowing significant leads two nights in a row? And losing on a balk? OC and Alexei are quite the newcomer combo. Congrats to you who wanted Dotel to close. That's amazing stuff. 3 strikeouts? My god. It'd be nice to win going away tomorrow, but Greinke is damn good. So is Mark when he's Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) an o-fer with 4k's? Maybe Paulie should go back down to AAA for a bit longer until he gets his timing back and as far as o-cab dancing around on the bases dye should be thanking him for making the pitcher have to think about something else. that's the whole idea behind having fast baserunners, they distract the pitcher so that they hopefully throw bad pitches, this actually makes it easier for the batter. I remember when Pod's would get on base the first half of '05 it gave pitchers fits and it resulted in a lot of fat pitches for the batters following him Edited July 10, 2008 by bighurt4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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