WSoxMatt Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Congrats to Carlos Marmol and his 4.13 ERA...he replaces Kerry Wood in the All-Star Game...I guess they ran out of pitchers and chose Marmol's name out of a hat... Marmol since 5/31... 1-2 9.35 ERA 17.1 IP 18 ER 15 H 13 BB 4 HBP Yes siree, those numbers scream ALL STAR in the NL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Kinda like a .790 OPS 3B with 17 errors making the AL roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Or a catcher batting .219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 13, 2008 -> 12:24 PM) Kinda like a .790 OPS 3B with 17 errors making the AL roster. Crede was a players choice though, not an after selection after someone got hurt by a big bad blister!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Well this bodes well for the American league team.I dont think he will get any action though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Since May 17th: 26.1 IP, 7.18 ERA, 1.44 WHIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Kyle Lohse got screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 13, 2008 -> 12:43 PM) Kyle Lohse got screwed. Johan got screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 13, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Johan got screwed. We could keep going on which pitchers should of been selected instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Crede was a players choice though, not an after selection after someone got hurt by a big bad blister!!! http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/ne...tory?id=3484802 Marmol (2-3, 4.13 ERA, 3 saves) was picked because he was the relief pitcher with the highest vote on the player ballot. He is the only pitcher in the game who isn't a starter or a closer. He became the eighth Cubs player on the NL All-Star team You going to change your tune now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 This isn't the first or last all-star game to have players on it that don't deserve it. They need a new system of voting and selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jul 13, 2008 -> 12:02 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/ne...tory?id=3484802 You going to change your tune now? NO, Crede was the players chooice, Marmol was NOT...Marmol was taken by the manager even when the manager knows he has gotten his ass rocked lately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ Jul 13, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) NO, Crede was the players chooice, Marmol was NOT...Marmol was taken by the manager even when the manager knows he has gotten his ass rocked lately... Marmol was almost voted in in the FIRST PLACE. That's a scary ass thought. But Hurdle had nothing to do with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 If I was a Cubs fan I would be very worried about Marmol, you need a solid BP in the playoffs (unless you're the Sox in the '05 ALCS) and Marmol was a major part of their very early success. Harden is a good pitcher, but I don't believe he is known for going deep into games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 13, 2008 -> 01:29 PM) This isn't the first or last all-star game to have players on it that don't deserve it. They need a new system of voting and selection. As someone pointed out on this board last year, it's called the "ALL STAR" game. Nowhere in that title does it imply that the best or most deserving players will be chosen. Whatever criteria is being used by the fans in the voting to determine what ALL STAR means is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 14, 2008 -> 10:38 AM) As someone pointed out on this board last year, it's called the "ALL STAR" game. Nowhere in that title does it imply that the best or most deserving players will be chosen. Whatever criteria is being used by the fans in the voting to determine what ALL STAR means is valid. Which brings us right back to what a f***ing crock it is that the winner gets homefield advantage. If there's no set criteria for choosing the players (ie: any f***ing loser can participate) then it should have absolutely no effect on the regular or post season what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 14, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) Which brings us right back to what a f***ing crock it is that the winner gets homefield advantage. If there's no set criteria for choosing the players (ie: any f***ing loser can participate) then it should have absolutely no effect on the regular or post season what so ever. I agree. How do you propose home field advantage for the WS should be determined?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Better record in interleague play? Although that'd suck if you have a wide disparity in the strength of divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 14, 2008 -> 02:33 PM) Better record in interleague play? Although that'd suck if you have a wide disparity in the strength of divisions. Honestly that seems to be the best way to do it besides better record between the teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 14, 2008 -> 02:29 PM) I agree. How do you propose home field advantage for the WS should be determined?? The team with the better record of the 2 gets home field advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 14, 2008 -> 03:56 PM) The team with the better record of the 2 gets home field advantage? Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 14, 2008 -> 08:56 PM) The team with the better record of the 2 gets home field advantage? Which would likely give an unfair advantage to the weaker league, in this era that of course being the NL. Makes no sense. I think League inter-league record would be next in line. If they refined the All Star selection system, I would love to keep it how it is, even if it's not the best system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 1.) Rotate it. In 2008 the AL team gets home field, 2009 goes to the NL team, 2010 goes back to the AL and so on and so on. 2.) If that won't work for whatever reason then the league with the better record in interleague play should be awarded homefield advantage in the World Series. That's it, those are the only 2 acceptable options IMO. You can't place great value on a game who's participants are selected via voting by f***ing dolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Highest league record in the World Series should get it. If the Sox finish 95-67 and the Cubs finish 93-69 and both win the pennant, then the Sox should get home field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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