DABearSoX Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 04:36 PM) DaBearSox, this isnt directed just at you, yours is just the last the last I read, but this attitude some of you have about Hamilton and the "he did drugs omg hate hate hate" blah blah blah whatever is annoying. I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of people on this board who are over 18 have at least tried some drug at some point in their life one time. Do you really think Hamilton went out to get himself addicted? Do you believe thats what he was trying to do? Do you think he said to himself the first time he tried something "Yes, i cant wait to begin the downward spiral and ruin my life"? No, he didnt. Of course I am not advocating what he did, but it is very commendable the way he has been able to pick his life up and get his act together. Many people are not able to do that. It is admirable the way he has come back and gotten over his addiction. What he is doing now hopefully prevents some kids from making similar mistakes in the future. No offense taken....I have known 2 kids and was friends with one who ODed back in high school. I have always been bitter towards that drug and I guess what I was trying to say was more of how StrangeSox put it below. I mean I just graduated college and I can't say that I was the cleanest person around, it just makes me question peoples judgement when they try something that utterly stupid and dangerous just for the hell of it. and along the lines of the actual topic if TCQ has another strong 60 games....I give him a 1:5 chance of getting it. I think AROD is actually his biggest competition right now. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) America loves the redemption story. And it is great that Hamilton has cleaned up. But he gets more praised for falling hard and picking himself up and playing at an MVP level than someone who didn't f*** it all up in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) That's a cruel and thoughtless manner to describe someone's drug problem. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I could care less if CQ wins the MVP as long as he's got two shiny new rings in the next year (he's engaged). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 10:36 AM) DaBearSox, this isnt directed just at you, yours is just the last the last I read, but this attitude some of you have about Hamilton and the "he did drugs omg hate hate hate" blah blah blah whatever is annoying. I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of people on this board who are over 18 have at least tried some drug at some point in their life one time. Do you really think Hamilton went out to get himself addicted? Do you believe thats what he was trying to do? Do you think he said to himself the first time he tried something "Yes, i cant wait to begin the downward spiral and ruin my life"? No, he didnt. Of course I am not advocating what he did, but it is very commendable the way he has been able to pick his life up and get his act together. Many people are not able to do that. It is admirable the way he has come back and gotten over his addiction. What he is doing now hopefully prevents some kids from making similar mistakes in the future. That being said and off my chest, to respond to the actual point o fthe thread, CQ has a good shot, but his lack of exposure will hurt him. Plus, if JD stays hot and get those RBI numbers up, teammates sometimes can have a negative affect on each other (splitting votes). And, you can never count out ARod when it comes to these types of things. The problem with that logic is you freely choose to do drugs, and unless you're mentally handicapped, you know that drugs are bad. If you choose to shoot up heroin or smoke crack: you're an idiot and I will not feel sorry for you. If you choose to blow millions of dollars and almost blow a shot to get super rich play a game: you're an even bigger idiot. Good for him, he somehow found the strength to overcome addiction and start making millions hitting homeruns, what an amazing story! Now all the crackheads in the world can realize all they need to do is get clean and get a tryout at spring training. The only credit i will give him is he is not telling his sob story to every media outlet available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 People need to be more on the fence with Hamilton, and not so much on one side or the other. He made a terrible choice, and he should not be commended for that. He has been sober for probably 3 or 4 years now, and for that he should be commended, which brings him right back to civilized humanity and not anywhere near a god-like status that some (no one in particular but people around the country) have deemed him to be. Thus, he should be judged equally compared to everyone else in the league. He shouldn't win the MVP because of his history, and I think if he won the MVP this season, that's exactly what would be happening, because he does not have better overall numbers, outside of like RBI and average, than CQ, and he's not on a first place team, unlike CQ. He should win it because he is clearly, cut and dry, far and away the best player in the AL, similar to ARod's MVP with the Rangers; that's not the case, and he shouldn't win the MVP this season (4 months into the season). Great story, great player, but not the best in the AL and he doesn't deserve the MVP. Is that on the fence enough to where everyone can be happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Q is definitely the league MVP so far. He is the main cog in a first place team and really tearing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Jul 24, 2008 -> 02:09 PM) That's a cruel and thoughtless manner to describe someone's drug problem. He wasn't sitting around sipping on syringes for the taste. By all means, there's a lot of ways to look at him, and there's a lot of people who resent Hamilton or dislike him or some other generally-negative feeling, but "he loved drugs" is one of the worst sentences written on SoxTalk. Its also cruel and thoughtless of Hamilton to have engaged in something so dangerous that he could endanger his own life and put his family and friend through that torturous ringer. It is a complete act of selfishness. I don't see him as being something great for having beaten something that he should have never gotten involved in in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 12:14 AM) People need to be more on the fence with Hamilton, and not so much on one side or the other. He made a terrible choice, and he should not be commended for that. He has been sober for probably 3 or 4 years now, and for that he should be commended, which brings him right back to civilized humanity and not anywhere near a god-like status that some (no one in particular but people around the country) have deemed him to be. Thus, he should be judged equally compared to everyone else in the league. He shouldn't win the MVP because of his history, and I think if he won the MVP this season, that's exactly what would be happening, because he does not have better overall numbers, outside of like RBI and average, than CQ, and he's not on a first place team, unlike CQ. He should win it because he is clearly, cut and dry, far and away the best player in the AL, similar to ARod's MVP with the Rangers; that's not the case, and he shouldn't win the MVP this season (4 months into the season). Great story, great player, but not the best in the AL and he doesn't deserve the MVP. Is that on the fence enough to where everyone can be happy? Excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoxFan1 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 02:03 PM) http://palehose8.blogspot.com/ Haha, thats awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:03 PM) http://palehose8.blogspot.com/ CQ's facial expression is spot on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 j.d's status as team MVP prevents c.q from being league MVP. discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 CQ hits a walk off homerun on a national stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochise Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 27, 2008 -> 04:45 AM) CQ hits a walk off homerun on a national stage! I love how at the end of this video Joe Morgan calls CQ "Carlos Quintana." What a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oralsoxpodcast Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I thought it was nice that CQ merely hit a single last night, allowing JD all the glory of putting the Sox ahead. Letting others share in his greatness, is one of his better qualities and why I'm totally gay for him as MVP. JD does get him a good run for his money, but he's just so 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox15 @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 02:49 PM) I love how at the end of this video Joe Morgan calls CQ "Carlos Quintana." What a moron. What if we see Quintana in the semis? He's a pederast. yea, but that creep can f***in' roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 27, 2008 -> 01:57 AM) What if we see Quintana in the semis? He's a pederast. yea, but that creep can f***in' roll. You said it man. Nobody f***s with the Carlos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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