joejoedairy Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Indianapolis beat Charlotte 8-3 rough stretch since I predicted a Knights playoff birth a few weeks ago Fields didnt play Haeger not exactly lights out(6.1 inn 5 er) now 8-9 Birmingham beat Mississippi 11-6 Brandon Allen Train 0-3 2bbs sb Cruz 2 hrs 4 barons with 3 hits Poreda bad(3.2 3er 4bb) Texieras first appearence at aa 1.1 0 runs Winston Salem beat Salem 3-0 Ely 5 innings 0 runs Retherford rbi single Kannapolis no game Bristol won 3-2 Silverio 1-3 2ks Paniagua 7 innings 1 run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 02:19 AM) Winston Salem beat Salem 3-0 Ely 5 innings 0 runs Retherford rbi single Retherford went 2-3 with an RBI and a walk raising his season average to .284. Keep it going CJ!!! Ely finally had a pretty nice outing. 5 innings; 0 runs on 8 hits; 6 Ks; 0 walks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 02:19 AM) Birmingham beat Mississippi 11-6 Brandon Allen Train 0-3 2bbs sb Cruz 2 hrs 4 barons with 3 hits Poreda bad(3.2 3er 4bb) Texieras first appearence at aa 1.1 0 runs Poreda doing his best to impress the scouts. Ryan F'ing O'Malley went 1.1 innings, gave up 2 runs on 6 hits and picked up the win. Lee Cruz went 3-4, hit 2 homeruns, and had 4 RBIs. I can guarantee that whatever he ate yesterday and however he tied his shoes, crossed the street, etc., he is going to do the exact same things today. Anything to try and recreate whatever magic he conjured up last night. Ditto Robert Valido who went 3-4. Maybe the other team was holding "Help Keep a Guy in the League" night. And Miguel "Streaky" Negron had 3 hits too. He's been pretty good so far this year, batting .284. But he runs up and down the scale like an opera singer. Up to .300... down to .250... up to .290... down to .260... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 One other game... Great Falls lost to last place Missoula 10-6. Starter Kevin Skogley had an uncharacteristic bad outing. He's been very good so far this year. Ryan Strauss got lit up in 1.2 innings of 'relief'. SS Tyler Kuhn with a very nice night 3-3 plus 2 walks and scored two runs. Raised his season average to .362 Kent Gerst hit a double and drove in two runs. Gerst is batting .307 Great Falls is now under .500 for the first time (I believe) this season. Come on boys... get it together. You're only 5 games out of 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 08:54 AM) Retherford went 2-3 with an RBI and a walk raising his season average to .284. Keep it going CJ!!! Ely finally had a pretty nice outing. 5 innings; 0 runs on 8 hits; 6 Ks; 0 walks Retherford is interesting. He seemed pretty damn good for GF last year (1.002 OPS), but many said he was old for the league. Well, now he's been double-promoted to High A, and he's posting an .813 OPS and rising. He's getting stronger as time goes on (.353 and more walks than K's in his last 9 games). His monthly averages haev been .270, .279, .284 and .304. 15 HR and 20 2B in 334 AB's, so he's got power too, especially for a guy who isn't real big (5'10", 190). Not many walks, though. Anyone know anything about his defense? When does a guy who wasn't considered a prospect, become a prospect? sort of a philosophical question. Looks like he didn't start playing college ball until he was 20, which might explain why he was drafted old (22). Did 2 years at Arizona State, also pitched a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Did Kenny's one of kids go ASU? That could explain why we were on to this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Edit: CJ was drafted at 21, turned 22 while at GF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 09:30 AM) Retherford is interesting. He seemed pretty damn good for GF last year (1.002 OPS), but many said he was old for the league. Well, now he's been double-promoted to High A, and he's posting an .813 OPS and rising. He's getting stronger as time goes on (.353 and more walks than K's in his last 9 games). His monthly averages haev been .270, .279, .284 and .304. 15 HR and 20 2B in 334 AB's, so he's got power too, especially for a guy who isn't real big (5'10", 190). Not many walks, though. Anyone know anything about his defense? When does a guy who wasn't considered a prospect, become a prospect? sort of a philosophical question. Looks like he didn't start playing college ball until he was 20, which might explain why he was drafted old (22). Did 2 years at Arizona State, also pitched a few games. CJ played Junior College ball. In fact, played on a JC national championship team I believe. That's why you're missing two years at ASU. Funny this is his primary position prior to ASU was as a pitcher. Starting pitcher on his high school state championship team. Starting pitcher on his JC team. He was one of those two way players who hit so well the coach would put him in the field when he could. So ASU struggled what to do with him. Pitch? Hit? What position would he play? I read an interview with the ASU coach where he called CJ a classic 'bat-rat' without a position. They moved him around and tried different things. They settled on the idea of making him a catcher (when he wasn't pitching), but he got hurt and missed a signficant amount of playing time, and ended up as a reserve. Then in the NCAA tournament his senior year, the coach said he had a hunch... started Retherford... and CJ turned it on. Had a great tourney. Of course, he didn't get drafted. Because who drafts a guy without a position who missed most of his senior year? But the talent is obviously there. Then he goes to GF last year and set the all-time Pioneer League single season doubles record on his way to leading GF to a championship game (and the best season a WhiteSox farm club has had in 20 years). I've heard people say "he was too old for that league". The league average age was 21 and he was 21. Not sure how that was too old. And this year, he's 22 in Winston-Salem. He'll be 23 in Birmingham. And 24 in Charlotte. Not bad. Not bad at all. Regarding defense... he's struggled with errors at 3B because he's learning the position, but is likely to improve because he is pretty athletic. He's got the power to play 3B... and the smarts to catch. In one college game, he both pitched and caught in the same inning. LOL. How can you not root for a guy like that? He's even pitched part of an inning this year for the Warthogs. Edited July 25, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) CJ played Junior College ball. In fact, played on a JC national championship team I believe. That's why you're missing two years at ASU. Funny this is his primary position prior to ASU was as a pitcher. He was one of those two way players who hit so well the coach would put him in the field when he could. So ASU struggled what to do with him. Pitch? Hit? What position would he play? I read an interview with the ASU coach where he called CJ a classic 'bat-rat' without a position. They moved him around and tried different things. They settled on the idea of making him a catcher (when he wasn't pitching), but he got hurt and missed a signficant amount of playing time, and ended up as a reserve. Then in the NCAA tournament his senior year, the coach said he had a hunch... started Retherford... and CJ turned it on. Had a great tourney. Of course, he didn't get drafted. Because who drafts a guy without a position who missed most of his senior year? But the talent is obviously there. Regarding defense... he's struggled with errors at 3B because he's learning the position, but is likely to improve because he is pretty athletic. He's got the power to play 3B... and the smarts to catch. He even pitched part of an inning this year. In one college game, he both pitched and caught in the same inning. LOL. How can you not root for a guy like that? Then he goes to GF last year and set the all-time Pioneer League single season doubles record. I've heard people say "he was too old for that league". The league average age was 21 and he was 21. Not sure how that was too old. And this year, he's 22 in Winston-Salem. He'll be 23 in Birmingham. And 24 in Charlotte. Not bad. Not bad at all. I love guys like that, who we find under a rock. Undrafted. You really have to like those types. If he can improve defensively, I think he may turn out to be a nice addition to the system. The 2 3B's ahead of him in the stack are Fields and Javier Castillo. I'm not all that impressed with Castillo, who has similar AVG and OBP to Retherford, but no power. Seems like CJ might have a real shot at moving up the system and getting a serious look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I hate to be a wet blanket but he does have 20 errors on the season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) I hate to be a wet blanket but he does have 20 errors on the season so far. it's been covered...he's learning 3B and so there are mistakes and errors to be expected. The goal is to see if he can improve himself at the position to where he's adequate and the bat is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 10:07 AM) Poreda doing his best to impress the scouts. Ryan F'ing O'Malley went 1.1 innings, gave up 2 runs on 6 hits and picked up the win. Lee Cruz went 3-4, hit 2 homeruns, and had 4 RBIs. I can guarantee that whatever he ate yesterday and however he tied his shoes, crossed the street, etc., he is going to do the exact same things today. Anything to try and recreate whatever magic he conjured up last night. Ditto Robert Valido who went 3-4. Maybe the other team was holding "Help Keep a Guy in the League" night. And Miguel "Streaky" Negron had 3 hits too. He's been pretty good so far this year, batting .284. But he runs up and down the scale like an opera singer. Up to .300... down to .250... up to .290... down to .260... The Atlanta Braves front office was in attendance for some reason last night. The clock is ticking on O'Malley. I could tell Lee Cruz was going to hit that second homerun. The Barons scored 9 of their 11 runs in one inning. Negron called his shot Wednesday night. No kidding, he told everybody in the dugout that he was going to hit a homerun and he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) I hate to be a wet blanket but he does have 20 errors on the season so far. So does Joe Crede on well manicured properly lit fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Robert Valido has 22 errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 01:51 PM) So does Joe Crede on well manicured properly lit fields. I wasn't talking about Crede nor was I making a comparison. I was just answering the question as to whether or not he is good defensively. Regardless of him learning a new position 20 errors in about a half season is a lot, be it on well kept fields or A ball fields. Who knows how he's going to develop in the future, and I hope that he turns into a great fielder and pro baseball player but the fact remains that as of right now he is a poor fielding 3rd baseman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 11:12 AM) The Atlanta Braves front office was in attendance for some reason last night. I've heard that they were scouting their own team not ours but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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