John Edwards Confirms Affair

[sox4lifeinPA]

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A hotel security guard told FOXNews.com he intervened this week between a man he identified as former Sen. John Edwards and tabloid reporters who chased down the former presidential hopeful after what they're calling a rendezvous with his mistress and love child.

 

The Beverly Hilton Hotel guard said he encountered a shaken and ashen-faced Edwards — whom he did not immediately recognize — in a hotel men's room early Tuesday morning in a literal tug-of-war with reporters on the other side of the door.

 

"What are they saying about me?" the guard said Edwards asked.

 

"His face just went totally white," the guard said, when Edwards was told the reporters were shouting out questions about Edwards and Rielle Hunter, a woman the National Enquirer says is the mother of his child.

 

The guard said he escorted Edwards, who was not a registered guest at the hotel, out of the building after 2 a.m. Edwards did not say anything while he was escorted out, said the guard, adding that at times the reporters on the scene were "rough on him," sticking a camera in his face and shouting questions.

 

The guard did not recognize Edwards at the time of the incident, but said he concluded it was the 2008 presidential hopeful after hearing reports about the incident and finding an Enquirer reporter's notebook at the scene.

 

 

Could you imagine if he were the democratic nominee for President? Game. Set. Match. McCain.

 

 

[NorthSideSox72]

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Could you imagine if he were the democratic nominee for President? Game. Set. Match. McCain.

True.

 

Though, I wouldn't exactly say I'm "sold" on this being fact. We are talking here about the Enquirer, and a security guard who may or may not have even recognized Edwards.

 

[sox4lifeinPA]

True.

 

Though, I wouldn't exactly say I'm "sold" on this being fact. We are talking here about the Enquirer, and a security guard who may or may not have even recognized Edwards.

 

The article goes on to say that the Enquirer videotaped the mistress going into the same room that Edwards had.

 

 

We'll see if this thing has wheels.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Red, dude... what's up with your man?

[NorthSideSox72]

The article goes on to say that the Enquirer videotaped the mistress going into the same room that Edwards had.

 

 

We'll see if this thing has wheels.

It might. And as I am sure people are aware, I am no fan of Edwards. But I am not ready to believe this yet, based on the Enquirer. I'm curious to see where this goes.

 

[Texsox]

Is this the same woman who had McCain's bi-racial baby

 

I'm to the point where I can't respect a candidate who hasn't done drugs and has a few women on the side, or an extra wide stance. As long as they are not Diamond escorts. That would be worng.

[Kyyle23]

True.

 

Though, I wouldn't exactly say I'm "sold" on this being fact. We are talking here about the Enquirer, and a security guard who may or may not have even recognized Edwards.

 

you know whats really sad though? Recently more often than not tabloid rags like the Enquirer are getting this stuff right. We arent seeing "Greg Walker abducted by Aliens" as much as we are seeing "Jamie Lynn Spears Pregnant" or "John Edwards with a mistress and Baby". people doubt and doubt these stories, and eventually the truth comes out. I think the Enquirer broke the story about governor spitzer too

 

It makes sense though, the creepy paparazzi follow these people around night and day and just connect the dots

Edited July 25, 2008 by kyyle23

[NorthSideSox72]

you know whats really sad though? Recently more often than not tabloid rags like the Enquirer are getting this stuff right. We arent seeing "Greg Walker abducted by Aliens" as much as we are seeing "Jamie Lynn Spears Pregnant" or "John Edwards with a mistress and Baby". people doubt and doubt these stories, and eventually the truth comes out. I think the Enquirer broke the story about governor spitzer too

 

It makes sense though, the creepy paparazzi follow these people around night and day and just connect the dots

To be clear, I am not saying its NOT true. I'm saying I don't feel confident either way, yet.

 

[southsider2k5]

To be clear, I am not saying its NOT true. I'm saying I don't feel confident either way, yet.

 

I really hope it isn't true. Otherwise all of that stuff about a life changing experience from his wife's cancer was the biggest load of s*** since Barry Bonds swore he was clean. That really would piss me off, and I totally would pity his wife. Talk about bad luck.

[NorthSideSox72]

I really hope it isn't true. Otherwise all of that stuff about a life changing experience from his wife's cancer was the biggest load of s*** since Barry Bonds swore he was clean. That really would piss me off, and I totally would pity his wife. Talk about bad luck.

If it starts to look like its true, then I'd be right there with you. Awful stuff. When you are married, your commitment is not one of convenience. When she is ill, all those commitments are tested, and you have to step up. When you are a figure who is trying to engender the public trust in office, you have a responsibility to be a morally solid individual. If he did this, then he broke all these rules.

 

[Texsox]

Much would also depend on the age of the baby. If the baby was pre-cancer, he's still a scum bag, but I would not expect him to turn his back on mom and his baby. If the baby was post cancer, he's a scum bag of the highest order and should never show his face in public again. Not even for a public blood letting or shamful apology. But, I am willing to wait until better proof is presented.

 

But, there seems to be no shortage of women for these guys.

[Cknolls]

Much would also depend on the age of the baby. If the baby was pre-cancer, he's still a scum bag, but I would not expect him to turn his back on mom and his baby. If the baby was post cancer, he's a scum bag of the highest order and should never show his face in public again. Not even for a public blood letting or shamful apology. But, I am willing to wait until better proof is presented.

 

But, there seems to be no shortage of women for these guys.

 

 

Again this from the Enquirer, but they claim the baby is an infant because of the car seat in Rielle Hunter's car.

[Texsox]

Again this from the Enquirer, but they claim the baby is an infant because of the car seat in Rielle Hunter's car.

 

In some states car seats are manditory until a given height. But, the cancer was 4 years ago, so you are correct, it does seem as if it was post cancer.

[kapkomet]

In some states car seats are manditory until a given height. But, the cancer was 4 years ago, so you are correct, it does seem as if it was post cancer.

This whole thing is just sad, whether true or not. Either Edwards gets raked, or Mrs. Edwards gets raked. Either way, it's just plain sad.

[Cknolls]

This whole thing is just sad, whether true or not. Either Edwards gets raked, or Mrs. Edwards gets raked. Either way, it's just plain sad.

 

 

Totally agree.

[NorthSideSox72]

This whole thing is just sad, whether true or not. Either Edwards gets raked, or Mrs. Edwards gets raked. Either way, it's just plain sad.

That's a good, succinct description. One of them is getting treated like s*** here. I just am not sure yet which one.

 

[Jenksismyhero]

Why would Edwards take a chance of being caught? Doesn't he have friends? Everyone knows you meet your mistress at a trusted friends house, not a hotel.

 

Also, I'm more inclined to believe this story, as the Enquirer "broke" it months and months ago. This is the follow-up that "proves" it.

[Texsox]

Why would Edwards take a chance of being caught? Doesn't he have friends? Everyone knows you meet your mistress at a trusted friends house, not a hotel.

 

Also, I'm more inclined to believe this story, as the Enquirer "broke" it months and months ago. This is the follow-up that "proves" it.

 

Maybe not, didn't Gary Hart get caught on a friend's boat?

[EvilMonkey]

With all his money, couldn't he have gotten someone better looking? Like Elliot did?

[Texsox]

For some reason I have this Jan and Dean song running though my head . . .

 

And we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one

You know we're goin' to Surf City, gonna have some fun

Ya, we're goin' to Surf City, 'cause it's two to one

You know we're goin' to Surf City, gonna have some fun, now

Two girls for every boy

[Brian]

Lie Detector Tests on the next Maury.

[Rex Kickass]

If John Edwards would refuse to do the "Not The Father" dance, this clearly doesn't belong on Maury. Therefore my interest has flagged already.

[mr_genius]

If John Edwards would refuse to do the "Not The Father" dance, this clearly doesn't belong on Maury.

 

why would he do that? that's the best part for contestants on the Maury show. a good dance and he would see his approval ratings (and chance at VP) sky rocket.

[southsider2k5]

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/...edwards-scandal

 

Wikipedia Disallows Any Mention of Alleged John Edwards Scandal

By P.J. Gladnick (Bio | Archive)

July 28, 2008 - 06:46 ET

 

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Wikipedia, which allowed verb tenses for their Tim Russert entry to be changed from present to past tense about a half hour before the official announcement of his death, is suddenly going ultra legal in its refusal to allow their John Edwards entry to be updated with mention of the alleged scandal which was reported in the National Enquirer with many of the details confirmed by Fox News. Suddenly Wikipedia has become a stickler for confirmation detail before the Edwards entry can be updated. To get an idea of how much Wikipedia is twisting itself into a pretzel to justify their refusal to update their John Edwards entry, one needs only to look at their pained, but comedically entertaining, discussions of this matter in their "Tabloid scandal accusations" section:

 

As many are aware, Edwards has been accused of scandalous actions by a supermarket tabloid. As per Wikipedia's policy regarding biographies of living persons, including information about the tabloids claims is inappropriate at this time because the tabloid does not qualify as a reliable source and current reports in more reputable news sources do not confirm the claims, only reporting the fact the tabloid has published claims about Edward's actions. The same policy that prevents inclusion of the accusations within the article also prevent details from being included on this talk page.

 

So who was the "reliable source" who updated the Tim Russert entry to reflect his death before it was officially announced? It turned out to be a junior level employee of NBC. A case is then made for confirmation by the mainstream media:

 

If the mainstream media picks up the story and verifies the claims of the story, not just reporting that the tabloid has made certain claims, then inclusion of this accusations will be appropriate.

 

Actually, Wikipedia, there was confirmation by Fox News. They did something relatively rare for the MSM by doing some footwork and interviewing the security guard at the Beverly Hilton hotel who confirmed many details of the story reported in the National Enquirer. Someone then asked if there is a list of reliable MSM sources:

 

Is there a list on Wikipedia of which mainstream media outlets are considered 'reliable' and which media outlets are considered 'tabloid', or is it up to individual users interpretations? Is USA Today 'tabloid'? Is the Drudge Report 'reliable' or 'tabloid' in its individual articles? Is Wikipedai 'tabloid' or 'reliable'?

 

It turns out that there is no such list of reliable sources upon which Wikipedia depends for confirmation of a story but that everyone should hold off on trying to post anything about it despite the scandal being discussed all over the web:

 

There is no list of good (nor bad?) sources. However, while the Enquirer's use of anonymous, and paid sources diminishes their wiki-reliability, we should take into account that there is actual first hand reporting on this story. The Enquirer may be "tabloid trash" but they are not always wrong - sometimes they have broken real news stories. On the other hand it is wikipedia policy that exceptional claims require exceptional sources, in particular there should be more than one primary source. So everyone that is trying to add this material should hold off for a while: this "breaking story" is not fully "broken", and as such doesn't belong in an encyclopedia (yet).

 

Wikipedia then gets on their high horse about a "tabloid source":

 

Considering that these accusations: (1a) are from a tabloid source that (1b) pays it sources and (1c) often makes false claims; (2) are extraordinary in nature; (3) do not list the accuser; and (4) most definitely does irreparable harm to a politician's career, they are absolutely inappropriate for Wikipedia anywhere... talk pages, articles, or anywhere else. I'm not usually a fan of trimming information via WP:BLP, but this is exactly the type of situation WP:BLP guarantees protection against.

 

This is followed by a commenter who knocks this claim down a few pegs with inconvenient facts:

 

In response to point (2): The claim is not "extaordinary. It is the kind of claim made often, and often proven true. In response to points (1b) and (3): there is no "accuser," but there are named witnesses; the only "paid" sources used by the National Enquiere in this case are the paper's own reporters; there are no anonymous sources.

 

Furthermore, as of tonight, the story is being carried by the Los Angeles Times, Independent (UK), Times (of London, UK), Hartford (CT) Courant, FOXNEws, Philadelphia Inquirer, New York Magazine, etc. Here is an important point about the story, from the Hartford Courant coverage:

 

"Edwards later issued a brief statement criticizing the tabloids. He didn't address the love child story, though it was the right time to deny it if it isn't true. Whether it's true or not, his behavior was bizarre for a potential attorney general."

 

Now, is THAT notable? I think so. But if not, at what point -- after how many "reliable" papers take up the story? -- will Wikipedia deem it notable?

[Balta1701]

In other words...Wikipedia is just acknowledging that when it comes to covering Democrats, Fox News is simply just as accurate and believable as the Enquirer.