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QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 01:19 PM)
He and the woman still claim the baby isn't his.

 

To me that is immaterial. To have an affair after going on the campaign trail talking about how the cancer changed his life and all of these things he wanted other people to sacrifice because of his eye-openings, is just inexcusable to me. I don't think much of someone who would have an affair in the first place, let alone one who made his wife's health one of the central reasons for what he was campaigning for.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 03:31 PM)
To me that is immaterial. To have an affair after going on the campaign trail talking about how the cancer changed his life and all of these things he wanted other people to sacrifice because of his eye-openings, is just inexcusable to me. I don't think much of someone who would have an affair in the first place, let alone one who made his wife's health one of the central reasons for what he was campaigning for.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all trying to minimize it. I'm just throwing that out there, what he did is enough on its own without needing to throw other details in that are probably inaccurate. It's not even so much that he cheated on his wife IMO since people aren't perfect, it's just that he looks like such a hypocrite now for all the reasons you said. I think it's safe to say we can stick a fork in his political career though.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 01:31 PM)
To me that is immaterial. To have an affair after going on the campaign trail talking about how the cancer changed his life and all of these things he wanted other people to sacrifice because of his eye-openings, is just inexcusable to me. I don't think much of someone who would have an affair in the first place, let alone one who made his wife's health one of the central reasons for what he was campaigning for.

I have to agree. This destroys his entire public image, and deservedly so.

 

The fact that his son was tragically killed is certainly not an excuse either. Maybe even makes it worse. I would expect that losing a son, having your wife diagnosed with cancer, and the stress of the campaign trail can all have big negative effects on a person. That person may sometimes say or do things out of character. But having an affair is inexcusable in these circumstances. Its probably inexcusable anyway, but these things make it worse.

 

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 02:35 PM)

I'd like to see more about the longevity of this affair. The details etcetera.

 

I'll be blunt... we all make mistakes that we later regret. In extreme moments of weakness, we all screw up... some bigger than others. He doesn't strike me as a serial cheater like Bubba. If he has talked this over with Elisabeth, repented, and she forgave him, he's squared up in my book.

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Just another reason why politicians shouldn't moralize about the sanctity of marriage.

 

I care about politics. I don't care about this. Do I think its shameful that Edwards used his wife as a campaign prop? Absolutely. Should he be crucified for it? I guess, if you have nothing better to do than wasting time on a person who hasn't been in elected office in four years and never had a serious chance at getting elected this time around either.

 

What I think is awful is what's endemic to our elected officials. In so many cases, we expect politicians to do things like use their family as a campaign prop. And we act astounded, surprised and ashamed that the image we want to believe about someone is shattered when it turns out to be untrue (and in most cases, it's untrue.)

 

But what happens when a candidate refuses to use their spouse as a campaign prop? Let's ask Howard Dean and see how well that worked for him....

 

If a candidate lies and panders and creates a picture for you to see that's pretty - even if its not true - voters, sadly, reward him or her.

If a candidate is honest about his relationship with his spouse, and refuses to use his personal life as a prop, its used as a way to vilify the candidate.

 

And the worst part is that in either case, it's not our business.

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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 01:42 PM)
But what happens when a candidate refuses to use their spouse as a campaign prop? Let's ask Howard Dean and see how well that worked for him....

Because clearly that was what killed him...

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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 02:42 PM)
Just another reason why politicians shouldn't moralize about the sanctity of marriage.

 

I care about politics. I don't care about this. Do I think its shameful that Edwards used his wife as a campaign prop? Absolutely. Should he be crucified for it? I guess, if you have nothing better to do than wasting time on a person who hasn't been in elected office in four years and never had a serious chance at getting elected this time around either.

 

What I think is awful is what's endemic to our elected officials. In so many cases, we expect politicians to do things like use their family as a campaign prop. And we act astounded, surprised and ashamed that the image we want to believe about someone is shattered when it turns out to be untrue (and in most cases, it's untrue.)

 

But what happens when a candidate refuses to use their spouse as a campaign prop? Let's ask Howard Dean and see how well that worked for him....

 

If a candidate lies and panders and creates a picture for you to see that's pretty - even if its not true - voters, sadly, reward him or her.

If a candidate is honest about his relationship with his spouse, and refuses to use his personal life as a prop, its used as a way to vilify the candidate.

 

And the worst part is that in either case, it's not our business.

 

I see what you are saying. I do think that candidates for high office have a very difficult road to travel, and certainly there is no good answer on how they choose to use or expose their family. It would seem that there is no truly good option there. This is why I don't tend to concern myself much with those decisions.

 

But I disagree that its not our business. For me, I expect elected officials to be trustworthy. I expect them to be of high moral character. That's not to say I think they are, in fact, often they are not. But I refuse to lower my expectations in this area. Not that I necessarily want an angel - a few smaller skeletons in the closet, from their past, are not the end of the world. But to cheat on your spouse, who has cancer, while espousing the things that Edwards was espousing, is dispicable to me. It shows poor judgement and weak moral character. Therefore, I do in fact judge him on this, and I don't feel bad doing it.

 

Now, if John and Elizabeth have come to terms with this and moved on, that is 100% their business. I would not seek to dictate their marriage. I simply seek to dictate who gets into office, and I will continue to want that bar set high.

 

 

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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 02:42 PM)
I care about politics. I don't care about this.

 

The bigger news of the day is what is happening in the former Soviet republic of Georgia. The John Edwards scandal doesn't surprise me because I have always thought the guy was a complete phony.

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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 03:14 PM)
The bigger news of the day is what is happening in the former Soviet republic of Georgia.

I was surprised no one started a thread on that. Russia and Georgia are in a de facto state of war - that's pretty big news.

 

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It's just dumb. These people just come off as dumb when they do stuff like this. Regardless of which party you belong to. You'd think they would be smarter or wait till after their career is over to get hookers, sleep with filmmakers and other intresting things.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 8, 2008 -> 03:12 PM)
I see what you are saying. I do think that candidates for high office have a very difficult road to travel, and certainly there is no good answer on how they choose to use or expose their family. It would seem that there is no truly good option there. This is why I don't tend to concern myself much with those decisions.

 

But I disagree that its not our business. For me, I expect elected officials to be trustworthy. I expect them to be of high moral character. That's not to say I think they are, in fact, often they are not. But I refuse to lower my expectations in this area. Not that I necessarily want an angel - a few smaller skeletons in the closet, from their past, are not the end of the world. But to cheat on your spouse, who has cancer, while espousing the things that Edwards was espousing, is dispicable to me. It shows poor judgement and weak moral character. Therefore, I do in fact judge him on this, and I don't feel bad doing it.

 

Now, if John and Elizabeth have come to terms with this and moved on, that is 100% their business. I would not seek to dictate their marriage. I simply seek to dictate who gets into office, and I will continue to want that bar set high.

 

:headbang

 

Totally agree.

 

Also, I highly doubt this affair was a one and done. If it happened in 2006 why does the Enquirer have pictures of Edwards sneeking around with her just a couple of weeks ago? Which also begs the question, if it was just an affair and the kid wasn't his, why is he still around her?

 

Hmm, more lies. Suprise!

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