bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/07/...indicted_on.php Wow! Finally. This has nothing to do with party, but Alaskan politics have been pretty corrupt especially recently with the Don Young pork barrel bridge to nowhere's and coconut road fiasco. And Ted Stevens has been just as bad. And finally, people are getting indicted for their misconduct instead of a slap on the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 a little background: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/...ion_broader.php Stevens Investigation Broader Than Veco Home Makeover By lkmcgann - July 31, 2007, 12:15PM It's official: the FBI is looking into more than Sen. Ted Stevens' Veco-overseen remodeling project. Roll Call reports that the FBI and the Department of Interior are also looking into a series of earmarks for one of Stevens' pet projects. The project, the Alaska SeaLife Center in Seaward, Alaska, has received some $50 million in federal money since 1998. One of Stevens' former aides, Trevor McCabe, was paid $558,000 of that money for an adjacent piece of land. Federal investigators want to know more about the arrangement. It wasn't the only time that federal money found its way to McCabe's pocket. McCabe is also tied to the federal investigation of Stevens' son, former state Senate President Ben Stevens. The FBI raided the younger Stevens' offices last year, gathering documents related to his time on an Alaska board that handed out millions in federal grants to the seafood industry. While Stevens was on the board, he partnered with McCabe in a consulting company that took fees from the companies that received the federal money. The older Stevens saw to it that the board was stocked with federal funds. If the three-pronged federal investigation into Stevens run by the IRS, FBI and Interior Department doesn't impress you, Roll Call mentions that the raid of a US senator's home is a historical moment in Congressional corruption: "Stevens appears to be the only member of the Senate to have his home searched by the FBI." I believe last year raids on numerous Alaskan politicians led to a few convictions and appeals now. It looks like Stevens covered his tracks a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Does the Senate typically have any patterns or procedures regarding people stepping down from committees or resigning while they're facing criminal charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Balta, I believe Vincent Fumo had to step down right away for his indictment on racketeering charges, but I am not sure of the timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 10:57 AM) Does the Senate typically have any patterns or procedures regarding people stepping down from committees or resigning while they're facing criminal charges? Wasn't Domenici under indictment, and still stayed on all his committees? Or maybe he wasn't actually charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 It really depends on the party's leadership and what they want to do, if I am not mistaken. The question is: will he resign? Or will he continue running for re-election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Election year politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 06:09 PM) Election year politics I guarantee you the Dems would much rather Young and Stevens on the tickets than off them, Tex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I think everyone knew this was coming. It wasnt a matter of if, it was a matter of when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hopefully they convict him. The more of these people that get taken down, the better chance we have of cleaning up the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 12:11 PM) I guarantee you the Dems would much rather Young and Stevens on the tickets than off them, Tex. I'm not saying that it was the Dems. Sometimes an internal cleansing is in order. Either way, if guilty, I hope they fall fast and hard. This stuff sucks way worse than having too wide a stance or getting a blow job from an intern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 01:13 PM) I'm not saying that it was the Dems. Sometimes an internal cleansing is in order. Either way, if guilty, I hope they fall fast and hard. This stuff sucks way worse than having too wide a stance or getting a blow job from an intern. And it has been going on way tooooo long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Okay, Balta, found you an answer, from MSNBC's story: Per Republican Senate caucus rules, if a member is indicted, he or she can no longer serve as chairman or ranking member of a committee. Stevens is a ranking member of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Goodbye, Ted, get the hell out of Washington, you scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Goodbye, Ted, get the hell out of Washington, you scum. Can we have him shipped out in some sort of pneumatic tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 08:03 PM) Can we have him shipped out in some sort of pneumatic tube? "It's a SERIES OF TUBES" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 12:04 PM) "It's a SERIES OF TUBES" And trust me...it's not a dump truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 He needs to go. Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 y'all know Alaska will elect someone just like him?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) Okay, Balta, found you an answer, from MSNBC's story: Per Republican Senate caucus rules, if a member is indicted, he or she can no longer serve as chairman or ranking member of a committee. Stevens is a ranking member of the Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee. No more clogged tubes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 07:34 PM) y'all know Alaska will elect someone just like him?! I really think they are starting to clean up, this probe wiped out a lot, but he's running in a primary despite this being Ted friggen Stevens, THE alaskan political figure since before Alaska was a state. And he was supposed to eek it out. The party will probably replace him, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 02:34 PM) y'all know Alaska will elect someone just like him?! Well, they had elected a governor who has taken on the corruption there, so who knows. Since it looks like she won't get the veep nod, maybe she will take Stevens' seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:58 PM) Well, they had elected a governor who has taken on the corruption there, so who knows. Since it looks like she won't get the veep nod, maybe she will take Stevens' seat. hmm...I believe she's in a scandal now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 well, this gives a huge rundown of what I'm alluding to. The guy sounds like a scumbag who deserved to be fired, but obviously a Gov. can't do this if it's true. I suppose they'll have to wait for the investigation. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/45694.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 From Roll Call: Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), who has been indicted on seven counts of making false statements on his financial disclosure forms, has stepped down from his post atop two committees, according to a senior GOP aide. Republicans may vote as early as Wednesday afternoon to select replacements. Consistent with GOP bylaws that require Members who are under felony indictment to relinquish their ranking posts on committees, Stevens, the longest-serving Republican Senator, has officially stepped down as ranking member of both the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee and the ranking member of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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