Steve9347 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 670 just played that little tidbit. Looks like we can start winning games again with Swish at 1st, and BA/Wise splitting CF duties. It's about time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Translation: "I am benching Paulie." I really hope the guy does find it this year but man you can only stick with a struggling player for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 True dat lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 This is what Jerry Manuel had to do to him too. Its a shame, but he just isnt "right" mentally right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Rejoice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:04 AM) This is what Jerry Manuel had to do to him too. Its a shame, but he just isnt "right" mentally right now i find it funny that everyone believes "The Sox need Konerko healthy and performing to be competitive this year" we've done fine for 2/3 of the season without him, I don't see anything changing putting Swish at 1st and BA in CF, this helps our defense out tremendously and limits the odds of us beating ourselves also, off-topic, Ozzie needs to be more proactive with this pitching staff, if you see the sox with a commanding lead like yesterday and all of the sudden the wheels start coming off , pull him out and let the guys in the pen handle the rest of the game edit: listening to the score, these guys are so unbelievably pro-Cubbies anti-Sox (Especially Bernstein and Holmes, to the point of being hilarious), it's hard to listen. The twins are flawed in as many areas as the Sox are, they're very similar to the Texas Rangers on the road, something about the Metrodome changes the complexion of that team, just as it changes the Sox complexion when they play at home. the Score guys give up so easily when the Sox start playing poorly, it's laughable. the way they approach the subject, is as if the Sox are 8 games out and it's unrealistic to expect the Sox to compete for the Division or WC i seriously cannot take 90% of that station seriously anymore. were they this bad in 2005 when the Sox were losing their lead in the second half? i didn't start listening to the score until 2007 Edited July 30, 2008 by joesaiditstrue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Either way its a bad thing.We needed him to be good and now that he is sitting it doesnt make the situation good.But it had to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:08 AM) i find it funny that everyone believes "The Sox need Konerko healthy and performing to be competitive this year" we've done fine for 2/3 of the season without him, I don't see anything changing putting Swish at 1st and BA in CF, this helps our defense out tremendously and limits the odds of us beating ourselves also, off-topic, Ozzie needs to be more proactive with this pitching staff, if you see the sox with a commanding lead like yesterday and all of the sudden the wheels start coming off , pull him out and let the guys in the pen handle the rest of the game The pen isn't exactly stellar right now, either. Every day is something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Unless this is a new quote, I don't think Konerko is getting benched right now. He looked good his last couple of ABs yesterday and has hit Hernandez well this year. Ozzie did say yesterday if he sits it will be for a while. I was under the impression that he didn't think the time had come yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:11 AM) Unless this is a new quote, I don't think Konerko is getting benched right now. He looked good his last couple of ABs yesterday and has hit Hernandez well this year. Ozzie did say yesterday if he sits it will be for a while. I was under the impression that he didn't think the time had come yet. It's a new quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 It's sad he's fallen this far from the player he was in the 2005 playoffs. We just had to re-sign him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 While and improvement, it isn't like we're trotting an All-Star replacement out there. If that was the case, the decision would have been easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 09:21 AM) While and improvement, it isn't like we're trotting an All-Star replacement out there. If that was the case, the decision would have been easier. 'Tis the truth but with the way the pitching has been lately, it certainly wont hurt to have your best defense out there and Anderson might just be the best defensive cf in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 off-topic slightly (i do this a lot, sorry) anyone notice how hard mauer hits the ball? watching that guy hit, his swing generates a lot of power, on linedrives, grounders, pretty much everything he hits, it looks very hard to field his balls in play beyond popouts pretty much all of their hitters take hard swings on pitches in the zone, except they keep the ball on a line rather than uppercutting it for a homerun, this allows balls to reach the gaps before OF's can get to the ball. perhaps that's a small part of playing in the dome where there's no wind helping/hurting the speed of the ball off your bat, as well as the fact that the ground is pretty much flat allowing the ball to roll a lot more quickly than if it were on grass just an observation i've noticed watching the twins this year, they seem to swing their bats in a certain way. i heard Bill Melton mention that they purposely cut down when they hit balls low in the zone to keep it on the ground, using the fields speed to their advantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:23 AM) Anderson might just be the best defensive cf in the AL. Whoah. Put down the kool-aid. How many times do we need to see him try to gun down someone at the plate, that's obviously going to score, and let people make it to 2nd easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:23 AM) 'Tis the truth but with the way the pitching has been lately, it certainly wont hurt to have your best defense out there and Anderson might just be the best defensive cf in the AL. Looking over the season and looking forward, this could be the September slump, only sooner. A couple banged up players needing rest or rehab, summer doldrums, a division rival getting hot. It's easy to believe the Twins cool back down and we get a surge and bump from a couple veterans returning and life is good in Soxdom once again. I don't think that is pie in the sky or blind optimism. Just the realities of watching many baseball seasons unfold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Swisher isn't that big of an improvement over Konerko offensively. Are we talking .219 vs. .239? What is that like 5 hits more on the season? Both should be benched. I guess Konerko is a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I want to point out that its never a good thing when you have to bench a guy making 12M a year for the next few years. It prevents you from moving him and obviously since your benching him you are clearly getting on production. The deal which was once a bargain is quickly turning into a complete albatross. I love Paulie for all that he's done in a Sox uniform, but I honestly could care less what the Sox could get for him as long as they could find a creative way to unload that contract and free up first base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (striker62704 @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:30 AM) Swisher isn't that big of an improvement over Konerko offensively. Are we talking .219 vs. .239? What is that like 5 hits more on the season? Both should be benched. I guess Konerko is a start. Swisher's OPS is not up to par for a 1B, but it significantly higher than Konerko's. Hell, Brian Anderson's OPS is higher than Konerko's. Edited July 30, 2008 by JorgeFabregas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 This should not be looked at as just one position player taking the place of another. Swisher brings better defense to first base and andersen and wise better defense to center field. additionally, swisher can draw walks and provides the value of a switch hitter. Finally, with anderson and wise we become a faster, better baserunning team. Right now its the best move barring a trade. They should hire a therapist for konerko, and he needs to go back to his previous batting stance. if none of those thigns work, then he is done for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I like Paulie and this is a sad move for me, but it had to be done. He is simply not producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) I want to point out that its never a good thing when you have to bench a guy making 12M a year for the next few years. It prevents you from moving him and obviously since your benching him you are clearly getting on production. The deal which was once a bargain is quickly turning into a complete albatross. I love Paulie for all that he's done in a Sox uniform, but I honestly could care less what the Sox could get for him as long as they could find a creative way to unload that contract and free up first base. I think it is still a little early to believe Konerko's career is almost over, or that he will drop off that steeply. I believe some rest will work wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Nobody commenting on the fact that Konerko hit the ball pretty hard last night in a couple of at-bats, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 11:19 AM) Nobody commenting on the fact that Konerko hit the ball pretty hard last night in a couple of at-bats, eh? or the fact that swisher went yard off the best closer in baseball (yes, I think Nathan is more talented than K-Fraud, by a mile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 30, 2008 -> 05:19 PM) Nobody commenting on the fact that Konerko hit the ball pretty hard last night in a couple of at-bats, eh? I said last night that PK should get another start to see if he can build on his two good at-bats to end the game. Things are getting scary with how depleted our lineup/rotation/bullpen appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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