Rangers interested in Masset?

[VenomSox]

Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram has Rangers rumors for us today.

 

The Rangers inquired on three pitchers recently: Zack Greinke of the Royals, Boof Bonser of the Twins, and Nick Masset of the White Sox. Greinke would be near-impossible to pry loose, though Chris Davis would be an interesting offer.

 

New collection of rumors from ESPN's Jayson Stark...

 

The White Sox will trade Orlando Cabrera for the right pitcher. The Sox aren't generating much interest in their prospects.

 

Edited July 30, 2008 by VenomSox

[RockRaines]

Masset+whatever they want for Young.

[beck72]

If the Rangers want him back for anything, the sox should jump at the chance. IMO, Nick should be replaced on the sox roster. Have Lance Broadway or Richard take Masset's spot when Jose returns. With Masset being out of options, if his ERA goes over 5.00, the sox would release him anyway.

[Reddy]

Masset+whatever they want for Young.

 

even with his broken finger? but yes, i would piss myself if that happened

[SoxFan1]

Masset, Fields, Poreda, and Anderson for Hamilton...done deal. Yay!

[watchtower41]

Ian Kinsler?? yes please.

[kapkomet]

You people are delusional, if you're serious.

 

[nitetrain8601]

Well reading the same article, it gave me the idea of going after Zach Greinke. It would take a bit, but I think for this team, it would be worth it. I also think he would come cheaper than Justin Duscherer.

[Kenny Hates Prospects]

I like Kameron Loe's arm and think he'd be a nice project for Coop. I don't know if the Sox would have any interest though, or how much the Rangers value him. I'd love a Loe + Ramon Vazquez for Masset deal though. Vazquez would give us a backup option for Crede once he comes back and can also play other IF positions, while Loe I believe throws in the low-mid nineties with some pretty sick breaking stuff.

[fathom]

I like Kameron Loe's arm and think he'd be a nice project for Coop. I don't know if the Sox would have any interest though, or how much the Rangers value him. I'd love a Loe + Ramon Vazquez for Masset deal though. Vazquez would give us a backup option for Crede once he comes back and can also play other IF positions, while Loe I believe throws in the low-mid nineties with some pretty sick breaking stuff.

 

Do people actually think about logical scenarios before they post trade proposals? Why would the Rangers give up Vazquez, who's hitting well over .300, AND Loe for a crappy middle reliever. Not to mention that Blalock's out for the year likely, meaning that Vazquez will be playing every day.

Edited July 30, 2008 by fathom

[Kenny Hates Prospects]

Do people actually think about logical scenarios before they post trade proposals? Why would the Rangers give up Vazquez, who's hitting well over .300, AND Loe for a crappy middle reliever. Not to mention that Blalock's out for the year likely, meaning that Vazquez will be playing every day.

Do you think before you post?

 

Vazquez is a 32 year old journeyman UT player who benefits from hitting in Texas. Loe is a guy with a good arm who isn't even on their MLB team because he can't seem to post an ERA under 6.00. Um, if Texas is looking at Masset there's a good chance they'd be willing to give up their equivalents of Pablo Ozuna and David Aardsma for him.

 

Edit: if they need someone to play third I'm sure they can pick up another AAAA journeyman in the same way they got Vazquez by offering nothing other than cash considerations. Saying Texas is worried about losing him would be like saying the 2007 Sox were worried about losing their LF Rob Mackowiak.

Edited July 30, 2008 by Kenny Hates Prospects

[fathom]

Do you think before you post?

 

Vazquez is a 32 year old journeyman UT player who benefits from hitting in Texas. Loe is a guy with a good arm who isn't even on their MLB team because he can't seem to post an ERA under 6.00. Um, if Texas is looking at Masset there's a good chance they'd be willing to give up their equivalents of Pablo Ozuna and David Aardsma for him.

 

Again, why would Texas trade their 3rd baseman with Blalock out. An .868 OPS for a "utility player" is damn good, no matter what team he plays for.

Edited July 30, 2008 by fathom

[Kenny Hates Prospects]

Again, why would Texas trade their 3rd baseman with Blalock out. An .868 OPS for a "utility player" is damn good, no matter what team he plays for.

Well because, if Texas feels that Masset is capable of being a solid 4th/5th starter for them that kind of price is a very small one to pay. I don't know why else Texas would be interested in him.

[Kenny Hates Prospects]

Well reading the same article, it gave me the idea of going after Zach Greinke. It would take a bit, but I think for this team, it would be worth it. I also think he would come cheaper than Justin Duscherer.

I'd love that idea too and would pay a hefty price for him, but I don't think he goes within the division if he's dealt at all. I don't know about being cheaper than Duch though, if it were me I'd be willing to offer more for Greinke than Duch.

[elrockinMT]

Massett has been struggling. does that mean he has hit the wall? There have been times he has been a real plus for us, but several more where he was simply not done the job. I would rather see someone else fill the long relief role on this team unless he can step it up a notch

[Sox It To Em]

If the Rangers want him back for anything, the sox should jump at the chance. IMO, Nick should be replaced on the sox roster. Have Lance Broadway or Richard take Masset's spot when Jose returns. With Masset being out of options, if his ERA goes over 5.00, the sox would release him anyway.

 

I agree. Massett is a marginal big league pitcher at best. Take what you can get for him, and allow Richard or somebody to take his spot.

[bighurt4life]

Nick has been successful in spots this season and has definitely improved over last year so if we do trade him I'd hope that we get back at least a low level high-ceiling prospect.

 

We got Nick from the Rangers in the Brandon McCarthy trade so if they have an interest it would appear to me that they see something in him from his time in their organization and value him, similar to when Kenny got Gio Gonzalez back from Philly. Lets not just think that he's a bum because he's had a few bad outings.

[fathom]

Nick has been successful in spots this season and has definitely improved over last year so if we do trade him I'd hope that we get back at least a low level high-ceiling prospect.

 

We got Nick from the Rangers in the Brandon McCarthy trade so if they have an interest it would appear to me that they see something in him from his time in their organization and value him, similar to when Kenny got Gio Gonzalez back from Philly. Lets not just think that he's a bum because he's had a few bad outings.

 

I think he's terrible because his WHIP is way too high for a major league pitcher.

[Dick Allen]

What's laughable is that some actually mention Lance Broadway as a Massett replacement. The guy has a 6.51 ERA his last 10 starts. I don't know what throwing him into the mix accomplishes unless you are masochistic.

[beck72]

What's laughable is that some actually mention Lance Broadway as a Massett replacement. The guy has a 6.51 ERA his last 10 starts. I don't know what throwing him into the mix accomplishes unless you are masochistic.

I did. Broadway threw well in his limited time in 07 in that role. My larger point is that the sox would probably get better production from a guy from the minors, ala Broadway, Richard, Haeger than from Masset. Carrasco was tried and has gotten some outs. The same should be tried if Masset is let go.

[Dick Allen]

I did. Broadway threw well in his limited time in 07 in that role. My larger point is that the sox would probably get better production from a guy from the minors, ala Broadway, Richard, Haeger than from Masset. Carrasco was tried and has gotten some outs. The same should be tried if Masset is let go.

So you are going to throw out this season's results and call him up based on 1 start last September against KC? Massett has pitched some nice games this season and he pitched a nice one against the Cubs in 2007. Broadway is not an option.

[beck72]

So you are going to throw out this season's results and call him up based on 1 start last September against KC? Massett has pitched some nice games this season and he pitched a nice one against the Cubs in 2007. Broadway is not an option.

Masset did start off the year throwing well. But he has done little lately. If the sox can't trust him [which it seems to be the case--he's barely throwing even in blowouts], and he continues to slide, they'll have to release him. If Texas wants him, good luck. What I'm talking about is options in the minors for Masset's spot. Haeger, Egbert, Ohka and Broadway have all thrown in relief this year in AAA. While Broadway may not be ideal, he or another SP in AAA would likely be a better option than sticking w/ Masset.

[beck72]

What's laughable is that some actually mention Lance Broadway as a Massett replacement. The guy has a 6.51 ERA his last 10 starts. I don't know what throwing him into the mix accomplishes unless you are masochistic.

Masset's last 10 games for the sox-Monthly Totals: 9.1 IP,18 h,10R 10ER 2 HR, bb 5, SO 5, 1-0 0 sv 9.64 ERA

Edited July 31, 2008 by beck72

[scenario]

Masset did start off the year throwing well. But he has done little lately. If the sox can't trust him [which it seems to be the case--he's barely throwing even in blowouts], and he continues to slide, they'll have to release him. If Texas wants him, good luck. What I'm talking about is options in the minors for Masset's spot. Haeger, Egbert, Ohka and Broadway have all thrown in relief this year in AAA. While Broadway may not be ideal, he or another SP in AAA would likely be a better option than sticking w/ Masset.

 

You pack Masset's bags. I'll drive him to the airport.

 

Then the Sox should promote Derek Rodriguez from Charlotte.

 

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[Dick Allen]

Masset did start off the year throwing well. But he has done little lately. If the sox can't trust him [which it seems to be the case--he's barely throwing even in blowouts], and he continues to slide, they'll have to release him. If Texas wants him, good luck. What I'm talking about is options in the minors for Masset's spot. Haeger, Egbert, Ohka and Broadway have all thrown in relief this year in AAA. While Broadway may not be ideal, he or another SP in AAA would likely be a better option than sticking w/ Masset.

I would think you wouldn't just want to bring up someone who may be better than Massett. I would think you would want someone who has a decent chance of success. Broadway has been getting lit up for a while now.