RME JICO Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) I said maybe because you don't know if the Sox will offer him arbitration. If he does get offered arbitration I can see him being on less than a type B FA and I wouldn't be shocked to see him as a Type A (I expect a strong finish to the season for Griff). As of October 1st he was a Type A, but I don't know how much that has changed since this list came out, and how switching leagues will affect the ranking: RANK PLAYER 1 Matt Holliday 97.079 A 2 Albert Pujols 96.667 A 3 Carlos Lee 90.337 A 4 Ryan Howard 88.667 A 5 Brad Hawpe 87.191 A 6 Carlos Beltran 85.393 A 7 Lance Berkman 84.000 A 8 Alfonso Soriano 83.371 A 9 Todd Helton 83.333 A 10 Mark Teixeira 82.000 A 11 Moises Alou 80.899 A 12 Aaron Rowand 80.449 A 13 Jason Bay 78.090 A 14 Adam Dunn 77.303 A 15t Pat Burrell 76.404 A 15t Josh Willingham 76.404 A 17 Barry Bonds 75.955 A 18 Brian Giles 73.258 A 19t Milton Bradley 72.809 A 19t Ken Griffey Jr. 72.809 A 21 Austin Kearns 72.135 A 22 Prince Fielder 72.000 A 23t Adrian Gonzalez 71.333 A 23t Derrek Lee 71.333 A 25 Eric Byrnes 70.562 B 26 Jeff Francoeur 69.888 B http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...-complete_N.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:23 PM) Putting him in CF is a huge mistake. I'm not crying about it, I just don't see why all the giddiness. Unless he plays 1B, there isnt a whole lot to get excited about. We picked up a DH/corner OF'er who is basically a mistake fastball hitter at this point in his career who will be coming off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) I would think Griffey has greater odds of being injured than any other White Sox. And Thome would be #2 on that list, so between the two of them they should be able to handle DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Jersey # 17. My favorite Sox to ever wear #17.... Carlos May was born May 17, 1948. The back of his White Sox uniform read "May 17." Just a little trivia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:47 PM) Unless he plays 1B, there isnt a whole lot to get excited about. We picked up a DH/corner OF'er who is basically a mistake fastball hitter at this point in his career who will be coming off the bench. Coming off the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I know we haven't got better defensively, or improved our pitching but DAMN do we have a butt load of power lol. Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) And Thome would be #2 on that list, so between the two of them they should be able to handle DH. I think it's not going to be very common to see Thome or Griffey sitting for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:48 PM) My favorite Sox to ever wear #17.... Carlos May was born May 17, 1948. The back of his White Sox uniform read "May 17." Just a little trivia... He also hit a home run opening day one year, but failed to touch homeplate. He got credit for a triple and was called out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) Coming off the bench? Yes. If they put him in Cf one of two things will happen. 1. He will get hurt immediately. 2. They will clearly see he is worse in CF than Carl Everett on one leg. In that situation, he will become basically Daryll Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) KW must not think CF is a defensive position which is odd considering his pursuit of Torii Hunter. Everett, Mackowiak, Swisher, now a 38 year old Griffey. That's not too much leather. Swisher is a below average CF, but at this stage he is a much better defensive CF than Griffey. I'm a big proponent of excellent up the middle defense. Edited July 31, 2008 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:40 PM) I said maybe because you don't know if the Sox will offer him arbitration. If he does get offered arbitration I can see him being on less than a type B FA and I wouldn't be shocked to see him as a Type A (I expect a strong finish to the season for Griff). Agreed. I thought you may have been implying he may not even be a type B FA. As for Griffey, he is definitely past his prime, on the down side, etc. but he is also only a year removed from posting a .868 OPS and he has been swinging the bat extremely well as of late. He may not be able to play CF anymore but I do think he is still has ability with the bat. I will be interested to see how the Sox handle this. Griffey cannot play CF everyday at this point in his career. Will Dye and Griffey see some time at 1b? I know both have limited experience there but both are obviously great athletes and it is not like Konerko has been stellar there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 02:51 PM) KW must not think CF is a defensive position which is odd considering his pursuit of Torii Hunter. Everett, Mackowiak, Swisher, now a 38 year old Griffey. That's not too much leather. Swisher is a below average CF, but at this stage he is a much better defensive CF than Griffey. I'm a big proponent of excellent up the middle defense. Theres no way KGJ plays CF more than a few times. Just wait until everyone on here and the ESPN and 670 guys see how slow he is in the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:55 PM) Theres no way KGJ plays CF more than a few times. Just wait until everyone on here and the ESPN and 670 guys see how slow he is in the OF. I have such little faith that Ozzie can handle this well. However, I'm excited to see what Griffey Jr. can do in KC this weekend. I'd actually like to see him bat 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp search Griffey and watch his defensive plays. Looks alot like Jermain Dye out there. Imagine putting JD in CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Who wants to watch little big league and see Griffey break those little twins hearts?!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:59 PM) Who wants to watch little big league and see Griffey break those little twins hearts?!?!?!? You still have to question why they pitched to him with an open base in that big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:01 PM) You still have to question why they pitched to him with an open base in that big game. Bad managing, that kid was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) Bad managing, that kid was awful. Got to love his GM moves over the last 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 So have there been any interviews yet about what the Sox are planning for him? Is he everyday centerfielder tiil he gets hurt and Swish/Paulie rotating at first base? Paulie and Thome rotating at DH? Any reports yet? I wonder why we just didn't trade them Swish for Griffey head up. Somebody's going to be b****ing about playing time after this trade. A positive is human nature will make Griffey want to excel with a new team. Maybe his old cf instincts will take over and he'll do well. He is a Hall of Famer. He must have skills to draw from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:05 PM) I wonder why we just didn't trade them Swish for Griffey head up. Do you think before posting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) I wonder why we just didn't trade them Swish for Griffey head up. really? You wonder why KW gave up the immortal Danny Richar instead of Swisher? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:05 PM) So have there been any interviews yet about what the Sox are planning for him? Is he everyday centerfielder tiil he gets hurt and Swish/Paulie rotating at first base? Paulie and Thome rotating at DH? Any reports yet? I wonder why we just didn't trade them Swish for Griffey head up. Somebody's going to be b****ing about playing time after this trade. A positive is human nature will make Griffey want to excel with a new team. Maybe his old cf instincts will take over and he'll do well. He is a Hall of Famer. He must have skills to draw from. That would have been just a brilliant move...not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 03:07 PM) That would have been just a brilliant move...not! Im going to have to save that quote along with several other gems Ive collected over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I think Ken Griffey Jr can still deliver. Where is the question, but I think he is a great addition to the team. Let's be positive dudes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) Man you guys are Swish fans. I'm not. ... any official word on Griffey's role and whose PT is diminished? Edited July 31, 2008 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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