bmags Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (JFields27 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:49 PM) or or ... the things the Kid will learn from CQ!!! haha but yeah im pretty excited with this move, I have always wanted him on the sox, maybe a bit later then wanted but w/e hes here touche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Could OC and Konerko be moving to the LAD for the prospects that can get Halladay or Roberts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I think I've got this figured out... Swisher's headed back to Oakland in a deal involving Duchscherer, whom KW has been after for a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:54 PM) Maybe KW should see if Rollie Fingers and Tom Seaver feel like pitching. They were pretty good once. What's funny is about the same percentage of Reds fans feel the exact same way about Griffey as the majority of the board feels about Konerko. and so the sox fans are incorrect about konerko but then the reds fans are correct about Griffey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Any chance he plays tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:54 AM) Maybe KW should see if Rollie Fingers and Tom Seaver feel like pitching. They were pretty good once. What's funny is about the same percentage of Reds fans feel the exact same way about Griffey as the majority of the board feels about Konerko. Good thing Griffey has been playing significantly better than Konerko this year, then. Like .100+ OPS and almost .100 SLG better. He's hitting LHP marginally better and RHP way, way better. I also think its hilarious that you're criticizing people for getting excited over Griffey and yet make excuses for Konerko based on several years ago. Edited July 31, 2008 by StrangeSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Barring some unseen trade of PK to the West coast [LAD?] I could see some kind of rotation in RF, 1b and DH that gets everyone AB's and rest. Griffey struggles vs LHP and has been very strong vs RHP. PK has been bad vs both-but better vs RHP with a .680 OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 yeah damn this HAS to mean either Swish or Pauly are gone... but i can't believe we'd dump Swish... isn't he our 1B of the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 i don't know if anyone's mentioned it....but the combined career HR totals for this lineup has to be the highest in MLB history, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 any chance we can get the big hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:57 AM) If Griffy is this teams primary CF moving forward, this team is worse off. Well we'll find out how all the puzzle pieces fit by 3pm. Hopefully there are other moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:56 AM) I think I've got this figured out... Swisher's headed back to Oakland in a deal involving Duchscherer, whom KW has been after for a couple of weeks. According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the A's are not likely to make a trade today. Olney's source puts it at 1%. So, looks like Justin Duchscherer and Huston Street can rest easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:56 AM) and so the sox fans are incorrect about konerko but then the reds fans are correct about Griffey? Konerko is 6 years younger and doesn't have the injury history. He's also in a little better condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:54 AM) Maybe KW should see if Rollie Fingers and Tom Seaver feel like pitching. They were pretty good once. What's funny is about the same percentage of Reds fans feel the exact same way about Griffey as the majority of the board feels about Konerko. Griffey had an OPS above .900 for the month of July. He's on a sustained hitting streak. There's a good chance going to a contender might revitalize him further. He's a first ballot hall-of-famer. Konerko isn't doing ANYTHING, and hasn't for the whole season. Our pitching isn't lights-out as it was at the start of the year, so we could use more offense. Richar and Masset aren't very good, and probably won't contribute anything worthwhile in Cincinnati, either. We don't pay anything, and Griffey probably brings back two type-B picks at the end of the year. I don't see much worth complaining about with this move, just wondering where Griffey will play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Since the chances of Griffey to the Sox would have been seen as less than 1% yesterday, I wouldn't go assuming anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Alexei to CF, Roberts at 2b. Then Griffey at 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 04:59 PM) Konerko is 6 years younger and doesn't have the injury history. He's also in a little better condition. so yes then? The reds fans are right but sox fans are wrong on this? Griffey also doesn't have an arthritic hip and crippled confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 if swisher is traded back to oakland, that would effectively make it, Gio & DLS for either street or duchscherer and we'd be stuck with Paulie at 1B for the rest of the year and an aging guy who was born in the late 60's, playing CF for us wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:59 AM) Since the chances of Griffey to the Sox would have been seen as less than 1% yesterday, I wouldn't go assuming anything. true, but no one said Griffey wasnt going somewhere, or that the Reds werent making any deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 The day I believe ESPN.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (almagest @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:59 AM) Griffey had an OPS above .900 for the month of July. He's on a sustained hitting streak. There's a good chance going to a contender might revitalize him further. He's a first ballot hall-of-famer. Konerko isn't doing ANYTHING, and hasn't for the whole season. Our pitching isn't lights-out as it was at the start of the year, so we could use more offense. Richar and Masset aren't very good, and probably won't contribute anything worthwhile in Cincinnati, either. We don't pay anything, and Griffey probably brings back two type-B picks at the end of the year. I don't see much worth complaining about with this move, just wondering where Griffey will play. Revitalized like Robby Alomar? Swisher had a nice OPS in June, it didn't mean squat in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) any chance we can get the big hurt? 20 pages too late...also been mentioned, Bonds and Sosa. Should've been mentioned but weren't because of the the black-white thing, Palmeiro and McGwire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Griffey vs RHP: .261/.373/.452 11 HR, 43 BB, 38 K He's not going to play much vs LHP so his overall numbers mean little. He can still hit, and has over a .900 OPS in the last month. I don't believe Griff will be much worse than Swish in CF, and Swish is a hell of a lot better than Konerko at 1B. Good trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 11:41 AM) And he would want to go to SF why? Konerko is going nowhere, just hope he gets hot. To start. The Sox aren't going to play him when he's hitting like this. Hence why they made the trade for Griffey Jr. Swish hasn't been good this season, but he gets on base and when he does get hot (as he was in June), he can put up some sick OPS numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 QUOTE (almagest @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:59 AM) Griffey had an OPS above .900 for the month of July. He's on a sustained hitting streak. There's a good chance going to a contender might revitalize him further. He's a first ballot hall-of-famer. Konerko isn't doing ANYTHING, and hasn't for the whole season. Our pitching isn't lights-out as it was at the start of the year, so we could use more offense. Richar and Masset aren't very good, and probably won't contribute anything worthwhile in Cincinnati, either. We don't pay anything, and Griffey probably brings back two type-B picks at the end of the year. I don't see much worth complaining about with this move, just wondering where Griffey will play. I doubt the Sox get any sort of compensation for Griffey at season's end. They won't risk offering arbitration to a 39 year old who made $12M this year and would only bring in a sandwich pick anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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