danman31 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Yeah, I put some money on Mizzou and Tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I'll give you Beanie, Pryor, AND Eddie George if you want, and USC will still man-handle OSU, whether it's in LA, Columbus, or Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Sep 30, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) I'll give you Beanie, Pryor, AND Eddie George if you want, and USC will still man-handle OSU, whether it's in LA, Columbus, or Cuba. You might want to worry about your own conference at this point. And maybe we wouldnt win, but we would still like another shot with our best two players starting. Edited October 1, 2008 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Great article on the ridiculousness of the hype surrounding USC. I ask again, when does Carroll get questioned for losing so many bad games with all that talent? http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=2433 I equate USC to Kansas in basketball - tons of talent year after year, tons of historically good but not great teams, and lots and lots of hype because of the fan base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:57 AM) And maybe we wouldnt win, but we would still like another shot with our best two players starting. Pryor is the second best player on that team? Really? I think once he has to pass against decent teams, his numbers will be pedestrian. I'm not saying he can't be great, but he isn't yet. If he's the 2nd best player that team has, then that's why Ohio State isn't that good this year. Also, for the USC/Kansas basketball comparison...USC has been a top 5 postseason team almost every year lately and they are either in the title game or winning their New Year's bowl game. Kansas has a national title and a runner-up finish in recent years, but they haven't been anywhere near as consistent as USC football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 11:49 PM) Pryor is the second best player on that team? Really? I think once he has to pass against decent teams, his numbers will be pedestrian. I'm not saying he can't be great, but he isn't yet. If he's the 2nd best player that team has, then that's why Ohio State isn't that good this year. Also, for the USC/Kansas basketball comparison...USC has been a top 5 postseason team almost every year lately and they are either in the title game or winning their New Year's bowl game. Kansas has a national title and a runner-up finish in recent years, but they haven't been anywhere near as consistent as USC football. They're top 5 postseason because they play in one of the worst major conferences and are essentially assured a BCS title bid every year (which is a home game no less). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 12:49 AM) Pryor is the second best player on that team? Really? I think once he has to pass against decent teams, his numbers will be pedestrian. I'm not saying he can't be great, but he isn't yet. If he's the 2nd best player that team has, then that's why Ohio State isn't that good this year. Yes. He is the second most talented player on the OSU team. And I dont know why that makes them bad, he was head and shoulders the most talented high school team in the nation last year. And both Beanie and Pryor were AA game mvp's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 09:35 AM) Yes. He is the second most talented player on the OSU team. And I dont know why that makes them bad, he was head and shoulders the most talented high school team in the nation last year. And both Beanie and Pryor were AA game mvp's. There is a massive difference between talent and current ability. I'm not denying he has talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 12:49 AM) Pryor is the second best player on that team? Really? I think once he has to pass against decent teams, his numbers will be pedestrian. I'm not saying he can't be great, but he isn't yet. If he's the 2nd best player that team has, then that's why Ohio State isn't that good this year. Also, for the USC/Kansas basketball comparison...USC has been a top 5 postseason team almost every year lately and they are either in the title game or winning their New Year's bowl game. Kansas has a national title and a runner-up finish in recent years, but they haven't been anywhere near as consistent as USC football. Agreed. A better comparison would be USC to the UNC bball program. QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) There is a massive difference between talent and current ability. I'm not denying he has talent. Yeah, if Pryor is the 2nd best player on OSU, OSU isn't a very good football team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) Thank God USF is now eliminated from National Championship contention. Watch them lose 2-3 in a row now, similar to last year after they beat WVU. I've had enough from the bandwagon fans from Tampa. Edited October 3, 2008 by chimpy2121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 07:16 PM) Yeah, if Pryor is the 2nd best player on OSU, OSU isn't a very good football team. Better than when Boekman was behind center. And if you have watched any OSU games including USC, you will have noticed that when Beanie isnt on the field, the next most impressive Buckeye has been Pryor. Edited October 3, 2008 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 So I was having a discussion with a Cubs fan last night (during their beat down) about OSU v Michigan. I know some of this wont resonate with people who hate OSU like Shadows or even some UM fans on this board, so I understand you guys may not agree. Heres what our conversation was based on: OSU v Michigan is a very heated, old, and really socioeconomic rivalry. OSU fans historically were the poor Ohio farmers while the UM fans were the wealthy Michigan folks whose economic status and quality of education really benefitted greatly from the automobile industry. This stigma has carried over for many years into what the rivalry is now. And Ill lay it out a bit and you can see where we got some of our conversation points. UM stereotypes etc: -Upper class-well off -Quiter crowd, not quite nuts into games -Doesnt care as much about OSU as OSu fans care about what Michigan does -better educated, better background-they look down on OSU fans -more reserved, classier at games -more popular, older richer history OSU -Crazy hillbillies -Care most about beating UM than about winning other games -Cheer more for UM losses than anything -Lower class, poor, worse education -annoying fans and players -Not as rich of a history So our conversation turned to really White Sox vs Cubs. There are alot of similarities between the Sox and OSU in the rivalry vs UM and the Cubs. And my friend being a Cubs/UM fan agreed with me that alot of the attitudes are the same between the two fanbases. I agree in that I have dealt with both Cubs fans assuming im a poor ghetto hillbilly, to UM fans assuming im a hillbilly farmer idiot. I also agreed that in both cases I assume that UM fans and Cubs fans arent really as into their teams nor the actual sport than I am. It came down to OSU playing the White Sox role, while UM really has been playing the Cubs role. It was really an interesting conversation and showed how socioeconomic stereotypes and geographics really bleed their way into sports and rivalries. I thought I would share that conversation with folks on this board as Im sure there are other rivalries in college football that fall into the same type of slots just like Cubs v White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I really hope the whitesox arent related to Ohio State at all, if so Im rooting for the wrong team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 03:45 PM) I really hope the whitesox arent related to Ohio State at all, if so Im rooting for the wrong team Unfortunately we are. Both the White Sox and Buckeye players make good money doing what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Off to get ready for ISU-Kansas. Upset special, baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Off to see the Orange and Blue going into the Big House. Man we need a W here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I think the Kansas football magic has run out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Well first off, one stereotype that is true is the noise level in Ann Arbor. With as quiet as Michigan Stadium is, it should be called "The Big Mouse" in my opinion (no idea why I find that nickname funny, but oh well). Also, the Wisconsin marching band is in trouble yet again. I think Wisconsin is the only school in America whose band has more off the field troubles than it's players. The band was suspended for tonight's big home game vs. Ohio State. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/04/...d-Suspended.php MADISON, Wisconsin: The University of Wisconsin marching band has been suspended indefinitely while allegations of alcohol abuse and sexual misconduct are investigated. The band was not allowed to play Saturday during a U.S. college football game between the No. 18 Badgers and No. 14 Ohio State at Camp Randall Stadium. The university made the announcement at a news conference Friday, saying the behavior is consistent with conduct that put the band on probation in 2006. Mike Leckrone, band director since 1969, said he made the decision and it was the first time in his tenure the entire band has ever been suspended and prevented from playing at a game. It's the latest in a series of high profile problems for the band. In 2000 the university established a written code of conduct for the band. In February 2007 the marching band's assistant director Michael Lorenz resigned after an internal report criticized his treatment of a female colleague during a rowdy band trip to Michigan in 2006. Reports of band members' hazing, alcohol use and inappropriate sexual behavior prompted the university to put the band on probation after the trip. Then-Chancellor John Wiley threatened band members with losing performance and travel privileges. Wiley, in an October 2006 letter to Leckrone, called band members' behavior "boorish to patently dangerous and unlawful." At that time, seminude band members were alleged to have danced suggestively and there were reports of women being forced to kiss other women to be allowed to enter bathrooms on a bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 is USC beating Kansas an upset though? haha looking good so far at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 WIN OR LOSE WE STILL BOOZE Up until the Alvarez era many would say the Band was a bigger attraction than the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Sooo close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) Well first off, one stereotype that is true is the noise level in Ann Arbor. With as quiet as Michigan Stadium is, it should be called "The Big Mouse" in my opinion (no idea why I find that nickname funny, but oh well). Also, the Wisconsin marching band is in trouble yet again. I think Wisconsin is the only school in America whose band has more off the field troubles than it's players. The band was suspended for tonight's big home game vs. Ohio State. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/04/...d-Suspended.php Talk about trying to perpetuate the label of band geek. Let the geeks drink and screw, I say!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Holy crap, Carr of FSU with one of the best called back catches you will ever see. And then they run 20 yards for the TD on 3rd and goal anyways. Too funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 02:09 PM) I think Wisconsin is the only school in America whose band has more off the field troubles than it's players. Stanford is fun as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I am so glad we won, but I am so happy we have a bye week coming up; I can't take much more after that. That had to be a great game if you weren't tied to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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