Kyyle23 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25970479/ I wonder if their return to the market will have any lasting effect, or if they are just a small nostalgic jump in sales Edited August 3, 2008 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Interesting story and interesting history. The bit about the brewery losses in teh Chicago Fire giving the Milwaukee brewers a chance to expand is an interesting bit of history. I always have my doubts about "original recipe" claims, though. Even if modern equivalents of all the original ingredients could be found, the brewing process itself has become so modernized that the flavor profile and mouthfeel in the finished product is probably not going to match the original. I also don't believe that the recipe formulators typically win the battle with th beancounters at the megas. An 1850 American brewery certainly wasn't using supplemental amylaze enzymes to digest the starch in the cereal adjuncts, they just relied on the natural enzymes intrinsic to the 6-row barley. From a modern standpoint, that's highly inefficient, but in 1850 it dictated how much adjunct went into the grain bill and also how you had to approach the brewing process in terms of pretreating the cereal to open it up to that enzyme barley during the mash. I've had a couple of excellent homebrewed and craft-brewed interpretations of pre-prohibition American light lager, but none of the "originals" that have come out of the megas have been up to snuff. In most cases, I think that's because the beancounters are the ones calling the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 02:36 PM) Yuck. Come on, if SIU taught me anything it was how to properly assess cheap beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:39 PM) Come on, if SIU taught me anything it was how to properly assess cheap beer. Natural Lite, baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Natural Lite, baby. Busch Light is where it's at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Natural Lite, baby. Probably one of the worst things to ever be called beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 What kind of sick individual creates a thread entitled "They Live" and doesn't talk about the movie? Well, I'm just going to hijack this thread and make sure we do. Did anyone else know the fight in South Park between Timmy and Jimmy was based upon the infamous fight in the film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:11 PM) What kind of sick individual creates a thread entitled "They Live" and doesn't talk about the movie? Well, I'm just going to hijack this thread and make sure we do. Did anyone else know the fight in South Park between Timmy and Jimmy was based upon the infamous fight in the film? "You, you're ok. This one, real f***in' ugly. You... you look like your face fell in the cheese dip back in 1957. " Edited August 3, 2008 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 02:58 PM) Natural Lite, baby. Dont forget the Keystone. Or if you are really feeling frisky, Keystone Ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Natural Lite, baby. Natty Light is awesome... Well, when it's free anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) Dont forget the Keystone. Or if you are really feeling frisky, Keystone Ice I believe in using the term "Keystone Ice" you meant to say "Black Death." That's how it's been referenced to me before. You can also go with Icehouse if you are frisky or Steel Reserve if suicidal, but I'd rather not puke off of 2 beers because of how bad they are and rather just drink 15 or so s***ty cheap beers that I can atleast tolerate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 No mention of 'The Beast'? Life's too short to drink s*** beer. Fork over the extra loot and get quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 12:50 AM) No mention of 'The Beast'? Life's too short to drink s*** beer. Fork over the extra loot and get quality. Eh, Busch Light and Bud Light give me the same drunks, and I get 6 more Busch Lights for a dollar or two less. That's a lot of money one can save in a year with how much I drink, and if you drink even more, it's a lot more money you save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 That was a great movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) I believe in using the term "Keystone Ice" you meant to say "Black Death." That's how it's been referenced to me before. You can also go with Icehouse if you are frisky or Steel Reserve if suicidal, but I'd rather not puke off of 2 beers because of how bad they are and rather just drink 15 or so s***ty cheap beers that I can atleast tolerate. When in college, toleration of beer quality wasnt really something I had to think about. The choices were 1. Will it get you drunk? and 2. Can you afford it? Does it taste good never really fit in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 01:26 PM) Interesting story and interesting history. The bit about the brewery losses in teh Chicago Fire giving the Milwaukee brewers a chance to expand is an interesting bit of history. I always have my doubts about "original recipe" claims, though. Even if modern equivalents of all the original ingredients could be found, the brewing process itself has become so modernized that the flavor profile and mouthfeel in the finished product is probably not going to match the original. I also don't believe that the recipe formulators typically win the battle with th beancounters at the megas. An 1850 American brewery certainly wasn't using supplemental amylaze enzymes to digest the starch in the cereal adjuncts, they just relied on the natural enzymes intrinsic to the 6-row barley. From a modern standpoint, that's highly inefficient, but in 1850 it dictated how much adjunct went into the grain bill and also how you had to approach the brewing process in terms of pretreating the cereal to open it up to that enzyme barley during the mash. I've had a couple of excellent homebrewed and craft-brewed interpretations of pre-prohibition American light lager, but none of the "originals" that have come out of the megas have been up to snuff. In most cases, I think that's because the beancounters are the ones calling the shots. What does a guy have to do to drink a couple of your homebrews? Can they be shipped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 06:07 AM) What does a guy have to do to drink a couple of your homebrews? Can they be shipped? You have to be able to tolerate large doses of radiation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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