letsgoarow Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 The sox play 16 of their next 19 at home. the Twins go on the road. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 thoughts? we face better teams. they face the cellar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) The sox play 16 of their next 19 at home. the Twins go on the road. thoughts? The Twins will face pitchers like R.A. Dickey, Miguel Batista, etc., while we'll be getting Verlander as well as Boston's 4 main guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 im not scared of Verlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 If we continue to pitch like this, we can lose to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 The schedules are a wash. They play more road games. We play more games against winning teams. The Twins have been playing better than the Sox for the last month and a half. In addition, they've always been a 2nd half team. I think the Sox have always had a worse 2nd half record every year under Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I might buy the schedule argument if it was a decent offense shellacking them the last 2 games, and not the Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 im saying we go 13-6...lets be positive. Everyone has a bad stretch especially with our 5th starter, 3rd basemen, and set up guy out at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 The twins will be bad on the road..period, even in seattle. That team is the benefactor of a hard turf surface, weird defensive backdrop, and uncomfortable hitting backdrop for opposing hitters. Their defense plays so far back in the dome b/c every hit base hit is a rocket off the turf so they cut down what are sure to be extra base hits, they bunt and sacrifice a lot and then get turn ground outs and singles into extra base hits at home b/c they knock the ball intentionally hard on the turf, and every twins pitcher has horrid road ERA's and stellar Home ERA's b/c other hitters aren't used to the strange backdrop at the dome. If you remove all that the twins are an OK team with some talent in the middle of the lineup and back end of the bullpen but thats about it. If they play a majority of their games on the road they will .500 at best, but are more like .400 or even .350 road team. In July they went to boston and got swept, they went to yankee stadium and got swept, they went to Cleveland and lost 2 out of 3. They play well at their weird dome and play bad on the road, thats the twins and its no secret. Its up to the sox to now take advantage of being at home. I think most of us would agree the sox hit a ton of balls at Det, KC, and Minn that looked like for sure extra base hits and HR's at home, but were rather easy outs in those road parks. This team needs to pitch better for sure, but you will see the sox offense be a whole lot more productive at home, thats the kind of team they have (they suck in those large outfield parks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted August 3, 2008 Author Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 09:41 PM) The twins will be bad on the road..period, even in seattle. That team is the benefactor of a hard turf surface, weird defensive backdrop, and uncomfortable hitting backdrop for opposing hitters. Their defense plays so far back in the dome b/c every hit base hit is a rocket off the turf so they cut down what are sure to be extra base hits, they bunt and sacrifice a lot and then get turn ground outs and singles into extra base hits at home b/c they knock the ball intentionally hard on the turf, and every twins pitcher has horrid road ERA's and stellar Home ERA's b/c other hitters aren't used to the strange backdrop at the dome. If you remove all that the twins are an OK team with some talent in the middle of the lineup and back end of the bullpen but thats about it. If they play a majority of their games on the road they will .500 at best, but are more like .400 or even .350 road team. In July they went to boston and got swept, they went to yankee stadium and got swept, they went to Cleveland and lost 2 out of 3. They play well at their weird dome and play bad on the road, thats the twins and its no secret. Its up to the sox to now take advantage of being at home. I think most of us would agree the sox hit a ton of balls at Det, KC, and Minn that looked like for sure extra base hits and HR's at home, but were rather easy outs in those road parks. This team needs to pitch better for sure, but you will see the sox offense be a whole lot more productive at home, thats the kind of team they have (they suck in those large outfield parks). I like it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) The sox play 16 of their next 19 at home. the Twins go on the road. thoughts? We are a better team then what we have showed the last 7 games or so. Let's go on a winning streak Edited August 3, 2008 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:46 PM) I like it!! Its the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 09:35 PM) im saying we go 13-6...lets be positive. Everyone has a bad stretch especially with our 5th starter, 3rd basemen, and set up guy out at the same time Twins have been without Neshek, Cuddyer, and Liriano for most of the season, and their catalyst Casilla is now out. This is where having players in your minors that can come up and contribute right away is extremely important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 05:53 PM) We are a better team then what we have showed the last 7 games or so. Let's go on a winning streak You're never as bad as you look at your worst... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Twins have been without Neshek, Cuddyer, and Liriano for most of the season, and their catalyst Casilla is now out. This is where having players in your minors that can come up and contribute right away is extremely important. Not to mention they were counting on Bonser to get the job done as a starter this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:59 PM) The sox play 16 of their next 19 at home. the Twins go on the road. thoughts? THIS. SEAS...f*** it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 02:59 PM) The sox play 16 of their next 19 at home. the Twins go on the road. thoughts? If we don't pitch better, it won't matter where we play at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 I think our offense will be solid on this homestand. But damn has our pitching been HORRIBLE! If they continue to pitch this way, we may be 4-5 games back by the end of this homestand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 03:58 PM) Twins have been without Neshek, Cuddyer, and Liriano for most of the season, and their catalyst Casilla is now out. This is where having players in your minors that can come up and contribute right away is extremely important. I actually think the Twins problem this year is that they had better players waiting in the wings but they wanted to go with s***ty veterans instead; in some regard, it was to limit the playing time, and in others, it was probably just a failure in determining how good their own players actually were. How can you defend the Monroe, Livan, and Lamb signings? They signed Adam Everett to start at SS for them, but he's merely a late inning defensive replacement now a days as Nick Punto is their everyday SS (who is apparently a good hitter again, which is a big WTF?!). I also don't think losing Neshek was that big of a loss...Nathan, Reyes, Guerrier, and Crain have all had plenty of success before, though Crain being as good as he has been this shortly after surgery is pretty incredible. And nothing they ever do surprises me with their bullpen...Gardenhire might be the best bullpen manager in all of baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 3, 2008 -> 09:52 PM) I actually think the Twins problem this year is that they had better players waiting in the wings but they wanted to go with s***ty veterans instead; in some regard, it was to limit the playing time, and in others, it was probably just a failure in determining how good their own players actually were. How can you defend the Monroe, Livan, and Lamb signings? They signed Adam Everett to start at SS for them, but he's merely a late inning defensive replacement now a days as Nick Punto is their everyday SS (who is apparently a good hitter again, which is a big WTF?!). I also don't think losing Neshek was that big of a loss...Nathan, Reyes, Guerrier, and Crain have all had plenty of success before, though Crain being as good as he has been this shortly after surgery is pretty incredible. And nothing they ever do surprises me with their bullpen...Gardenhire might be the best bullpen manager in all of baseball. The twinkies have 21 games remaining in the dome and 30 on the road we have 30 games at home and 22 on the road true we have about 14 with good teams they have about 6 + us. this is going to have to be a terific home stand.. we can take the lead here and we have to keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 My only concern is that we are notorious for having pretty lousy 2nd halves in the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 4, 2008 -> 09:32 AM) My only concern is that we are notorious for having pretty lousy 2nd halves in the past few years. Which has been described as a result of relying on aging vets, who tend to break down some toward the end of the year; Konerko, Thome, Contreras, AJ, Cabrera, Dye, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 every team loses players during the season. (except the 05 sox) and at this point we're tied for first. I think the 8 extra home games for the rest of the season will be the reason we win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 04:50 AM) Which has been described as a result of relying on aging vets, who tend to break down some toward the end of the year; Konerko, Thome, Contreras, AJ, Cabrera, Dye, etc. Dye was a monster 2nd half last year, and the Count was a montster 2nd half 05' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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