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QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 09:35 PM)
Oh puh-lease. Pitch count is so overrated, it's not even funny anymore. Pitchers can easily throw 130 pitches a night, but because teams invest so much in pitchers now-a-days, GM's and managers baby the pitchers.

 

Tell that to Zambrano who threw 130 one night and was on the DL after his next start. Too many pitchers today do not have the ability to reach that pitch count without breaking down. Most of the pitchers today would have blown out their arms in the minors and never seen the majors prior to 1980 or so. Expansion has created the problem of talented but fragile pitchers.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 09:47 PM)
Tell that to Zambrano who threw 130 one night and was on the DL after his next start. Too many pitchers today do not have the ability to reach that pitch count without breaking down. Most of the pitchers today would have blown out their arms in the minors and never seen the majors prior to 1980 or so. Expansion has created the problem of talented but fragile pitchers.

Okay, I know you know a lot about health and such, so answer me this...

 

Why were pitchers back in the good ole days of baseball able to throw complete game after complete game and throw well over a 100 pitches a game, on 1 or 2 days rest, while pitchers now-a-days can barely throw one complete game a season 4-5 days rest?

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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 11:18 PM)
Because they players aren't built like that anymore. It starts in high school, sometimes before that. I really think if you took a group of talented kids(14-15) and started them on a tough regime of throwing every day, you could have players that start every other day or so. Work that way in the minors all the way up, it probably could work again.

 

However, it will never happen. No organization could ever pull it off.

 

Also: you can't take any hitters off today. Anyone can take you deep in these tiny parks and in this offense-friendly era.

 

Back in the day, pitchers would save their very best, hardest pitches for the best hitters but you just can't save yourself now because you half-heart a pitch and it's likely to get smoked.

 

The throw-every-day regimen is a strong reason too, though.

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