justBLAZE Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 10:14 PM) How so? This Contreras injury really hurts this year, but it's devastating for this offseason's FA plans. Money wise but I think we are forced to go after a starting pitcher, where if Jose remained healthy he would be in the rotation next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ahh, read again and saw we got him for pinch runner prospect Paulo Orlando. Good move, and looks like a good will gesture/favor from Dayton Moore. Horacio was doing well in KC out of the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I really like this move, but it happened about two weeks late. We still control our own fate, but we have a lot going bad for us right now. I seriously do not know what I will do if the far-superior talent-wise Twins win this thing again. Twins never hurt themselves with missing bunts and they always get runners in. I so wish we had their organizational philosophy + manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 So Ramirez for Boone, Getz more than likely for Fields, and unknown for Jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 10:17 PM) So Ramirez for Boone, Getz more than likely for Fields, and unknown for Jose. Does anyone think Horacio might be in for Jose actually as he was a starter before? Then Getz for Fields and Poreda/MacDougal for Boone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 09:19 PM) Does anyone think Horacio might be in for Jose actually as he was a starter before? Then Getz for Fields and Poreda/MacDougal for Boone? The guy has been injured and is no where near ready to pitch 100 pitches every five days, so probably not. He is the Boone replacement and Poreda will probably come up for Contreras. Rongey talked about Poreda not coming up before Contreras' injury. KW will go with the best player available and that is clearly Poreda. He has one plus pitch and the rest of our options have zero combined. And if Getz could play solid D at third, he would be the perfect number two hitter. Edited August 10, 2008 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 IMO, it's a good move. 3x better then Boner- his 2.6 ERA speaks for itself. Nice under the radar move by KW. QUOTE (beautox @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 10:10 PM) CC/Sheets here we come! Not Sheets, but if we get CC, I love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 What kind of stuff does Ramirez have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 10:44 PM) What kind of stuff does Ramirez have? His pitching arsenal consists of a low 90's fastball, a slider, a cutter, and a curveball. This from Wikipedia, not sure how much can we trust it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ramirez has to be better then the way Logan pitched tonight. If Logan is sent down as planned the Sox are doing the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpay10 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Agreed Logan was god awful...just about anyone would be an improvement... glad too see something done right away...now we need to get back to winning some games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I wonder if Josh has played his last game as a Sox. Doesn't seem like anybody that matters is high on him anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 11:17 PM) I wonder if Josh has played his last game as a Sox. Doesn't seem like anybody that matters is high on him anymore. It's time for Chris Getz to get a shot I suppose. Can Brad Eldred play third? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 11:17 PM) I wonder if Josh has played his last game as a Sox. Doesn't seem like anybody that matters is high on him anymore. Agreed, I was a huge Josh supporter last year but I he hasn't shown anything this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 10:18 PM) Agreed, I was a huge Josh supporter last year but I he hasn't shown anything this year. Maybe he should've been traded when his value was higher, like Jeremy Reed was. I remember this board when Reed was traded, a lot of people were pissed. But with Crede's agent and back, it's hard to tell what will happen with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Ramirez was a great AAA pitcher who's never reached his potential. He's a diamond in the rough. Who knows what Coop can do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:05 AM) Maybe he should've been traded when his value was higher, like Jeremy Reed was. I remember this board when Reed was traded, a lot of people were pissed. But with Crede's agent and back, it's hard to tell what will happen with him. It's amazing what's happened in the last 48 hours with regards to next year. 3rd base and #5 starter are serious holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) Not a chance in hell Seriously. If we were talking about having Garcia/Buehrle/Vaz/Contreras I'd say yes. But you are talking about two of the four guys being Danks/Floyd who still don't have fully developed arms (in the sense of being able to handle a heavy heavy workload). I wonder if Horacio can start anymore. I always liked him a lot as a starter in Atlanta but he kept getting hurt. Of course I have no idea if his stuff is as good as it once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2008 -> 11:27 PM) It's amazing what's happened in the last 48 hours with regards to next year. 3rd base and #5 starter are serious holes. Umm, you just got the impression the Sox weren't very high on Fields in the last 48 hours? If Juan f***ing Uribe is replacing Fields as a starter, that should tell you something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 06:21 AM) Umm, you just got the impression the Sox weren't very high on Fields in the last 48 hours? If Juan f***ing Uribe is replacing Fields as a starter, that should tell you something. More that it seems like Crede's career could be in jeopardy, and now there's absolutely no chance the Sox will bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowch Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I remember years back I when playing a video game I picked this guy up and he was GREAT! Hopefully that video game knew what was up. Of course I had him starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I really like this move, Ramirez has been really good out of the pen this year and we didn't give up much. As for Fields, I know he looked awful, but I still think he deserved more of a shot than he got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 12:30 AM) I really like this move, Ramirez has been really good out of the pen this year and we didn't give up much. As for Fields, I know he looked awful, but I still think he deserved more of a shot than he got. He really didn't get much of a shot. I think he's still in the plans though...or at least part of a package. Boone just pissed away his chance this year which is really sad because he started the year so strong. He just seemed to turn into a mental midget moper when a few things went wrong. On a side note...I still haven't been thrilled with some of the pitch selections when he was throwing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 So, Ramirez is Logan's replacement. Getz for Fields I would assume as well. Who will be called up for Jose? Broadway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 02:19 AM) So, Ramirez is Logan's replacement. Getz for Fields I would assume as well. Who will be called up for Jose? Broadway? Dunno, but I think Carrasco's the best option to start at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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