southsider2k5 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 OK so we are a good amount of the way into the season, about 3/4s or so, and I want to hear what you biggest screw up was when you were envisioning 2008 was? Did you have the Sox in 4th place? Did you have Carlos Quinten in AAA? Gavin Floyd released? Nick Swisher as a .280 30 homer guy? Scott Linebrink as teh Suxxors? I'll even start. My biggest miss was on Alexei Ramirez. I liked the signing for the price, but I really didn't think we would get anything out of him this year. I was happy to get production in the last year or two of the contract to justify the $5 million we signed him for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't make mistakes. The players made mistakes by not playing up to/down to my expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 i thought swisher would be a 35 hr guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 JV. I thought this was the year he would actually live up to his potential as a true #1 - and all he has done is be arguably the worst starter in the rotation. He has only 2 starts where he has allowed 1 run or less all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (The Critic @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 10:14 AM) I don't make mistakes. The players made mistakes by not playing up to/down to my expectations. You are my boy, Blue!!!!! I didnt think Dotel was going to be nearly as effective as he is this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 [My biggest miss was on Alexei Ramirez. I liked the signing for the price, but I really didn't think we would get anything out of him this year. I was happy to get production in the last year or two of the contract to justify the $5 million we signed him for. That's my mea culpa. I thought this guy had no business being up here and thought he'd benefit from some minor league ball first. Boy was I wrong. And the other guy I had no faith in was Linebrink. Thought he was over the hill and that his fastball was nothing more than batting practice. Now, we clearly see how much the bullpen misses him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I thought the Sox would finish in either 4th or 5th place, and even bet a fellow Sox fan $50 that they would not win 80 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Gavin Floyd.....there, I've cleansed myself of the stupid "guarantee" I made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) I thought the Sox would finish in either 4th or 5th place, and even bet a fellow Sox fan $50 that they would not win 80 games. I thought you were an eternal optimist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) I would have to say Thome. I never thought he would bounce back. I never thought for a million years that we would be in the position we are this late in the season. I thought it was a battle for 4th place. Edited August 12, 2008 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I could make a long list of my incorrect assumptions going into the season... --I never though Floyd and Danks would be this good. I was going to be happy with them being back end starters, as long as they put in some innings and kept their ERA's under 5.50. --I thought Javy would build on 2007 and have a huge year. --I thought Ehren Wassermann was going to be effective again. --I thought Konerko would start slow and start mashing in June as usual. --I thought Dye would have a down year. --And overall, I thought CLE and DET would be contending for the title, with the Sox in 3rd or nipping at the heels of 2nd and contending for, at best, a wildcard. I also got a few right though, that weren't popular at the time... --I was confident that Alexei would be a solid starter. Not this solid, but, good. --I didn't think Floyd would collapse as some did. --I was confident that TCQ would have a big year. All told, I was wrong more than I was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Besides thinking this team would finish 3rd or 4th, I had much higher expectations for Orlando Cabrerra in offensive production. I thought he'd be near a .300 average guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 08:32 AM) Gavin Floyd.....there, I've cleansed myself of the stupid "guarantee" I made. Yeah, I was pretty critical of the Garland/Cabrera deal. I thought that we should've kept Jon and moved Floyd to long relief. While we could certainly use Jon's services right now, throwing Gavin into the rotation and giving him a chance to sink or swim was certainly the right thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I absolutely RIPPED Kenny Williams for saying that one of his three (I believe it was three) main objectives this offseason was acquiring Carlos Quentin. He quote was "and not a guy like Carlos Quentin, the Carlos Quentin". I figured he was nuts and basically said any team following a 72-90 season that has a main offseason goal of acquiring an injury prone player who hadn't hit in limited big league time was screwed. That was perhaps the dumbest thought I've ever had in my life on any subject, sports or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 My response to Swisher trade: QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 03:37 PM) No f***ing way. Trade your top 3 prospects for an overrated Moneyball OF? Fire KW before this becomes official. QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 05:04 PM) Who's your leadoff hitter then? Richar? Cabrera's not a leadoff guy, Swisher's not either. I chose Ramirez because of his speed. I did have Quentin batting 9th, though. Who would have foreseen 30+ HRs for Quentin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I thought that Dye would tank/age like he did the first half of 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Definitely Floyd and Danks. I had zero faith in the former and although I liked Danks a lot I didn't think he'd be sub-3.50 ERA by any stretch. I'd have been pretty damn happy with performances in the 4.50-5.00 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I was pretty much wrong on every prediction, whether pessimistic or optimistic. I'll just narrow it down and say the few things I got correct. Vazquez, Danks, and Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I thought this team would contend, so not too many. At this point the Garland trade. I thought it would have turned out worse. I thought Konerko would be better. I thought Crede would have started slower, but finished. Wrong on both. I always think this is the year Buerhle wins 20+ I had the Tigers higher and the Twins lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 10:32 AM) Gavin Floyd.....there, I've cleansed myself of the stupid "guarantee" I made. good luck on cleansing that with one post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I thought Floyd and Danks would stink. They've been two reasons we are where we are. I thought it was a mistake not having Fields on the team. KW's biggest gaffe might be the Griffey acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 09:32 AM) Gavin Floyd.....there, I've cleansed myself of the stupid "guarantee" I made. And what was that guarantee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 05:34 PM) And what was that guarantee? No more game threads for me next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I was just showing while I overreacted on the trade of Swisher, I wasn't incorrect. He is very overrated. I was right on the lead-off thing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) No more game threads for me next year. What 're ya gonna do during Sox games now next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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