caulfield12 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 The Twins' starters are wearing down, almost none of them are used to pitching 175-200 innings in a season consistently. I really was looking forward to seeing Swisher try to get "revenge" on Gonzalez, lol. Scared with Griffey in that huge CF. Seems like an injury waiting to happen...he should at least know the outfield there, after playing so many games against OAK in the AL West. Are the Red Sox coming back to the White Sox? I hate to think too much about the WC, but we have to consider the possibility...we're only 1 game back, 1/2 if we get the win today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 OC, not a great at-bat, but he saw pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Gio comes back from 3-0 to strike out OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) OC, not a great at-bat, but he saw pitches. All fastballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Well Gio will not survive long if he gets behind every hitter. Just keep being patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 07:47 PM) Well Gio will not survive long if he gets behind every hitter. Just keep being patient. How did he miss that 3-2 pitch? 90 mph fastball right down the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I want to win the division so much for the fact that the Sox will be in the playoffs, but almost as bad because CQ really deserves the MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Is CQ seeing the ball better or are they just pitchign around him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Gio getting a tight zone, very helpful for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 And there is the negative emotion that many scouts talked about when Gio feels he is getting squeezed or errors hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Am I the only in the gamethread? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I'm not on the Gio bandwagon like so many Soxtalkers were/are. I think he may do well, but there is no reason to think he is going to be an ace. His stuff isn't unbelievable, his control isn't impeccable. What is it that seems to project so well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Disgusting...Gio throws consecutive balls to all four hitters to start the AB, and we get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I hear ya, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 08:50 PM) I'm not on the Gio bandwagon like so many Soxtalkers were/are. I think he may do well, but there is no reason to think he is going to be an ace. His stuff isn't unbelievable, his control isn't impeccable. What is it that seems to project so well? Good curveball, but don't let Hawk fool you...he's not projected to be much more than a #4 or 5 starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) I'm not on the Gio bandwagon like so many Soxtalkers were/are. I think he may do well, but there is no reason to think he is going to be an ace. His stuff isn't unbelievable, his control isn't impeccable. What is it that seems to project so well? Well he is young and you really didn't get to see his curve and changeup which is plus-plus pitch and a plus-pitch, respectively. If he gets ahead in the count, he can be dominant. But his control will always keep him from being an ACE. But I don't think people on here thought he was an ACE, just a very good top of the rotation guy (a John Danks type, not Halliday). I was always high on him, but now I think he is a middle of the rotation guy. Edited August 17, 2008 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Nice to see Javy put away a hitter right away, not messing around with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Arnie Munoz also was "famous" in the Sox organization for having the "wipeout" curve. Sometimes I laugh, or Dewon Day's amazing slider...or Willie Harris is a miniature Ray Durham. In this case, Gio is Barry Zito with a better fastball. Well, we shall see. He pitched very well his last time out. Also, there's a big difference pitching for the White Sox in the second half of 2007 versus 2008. I guess we will never know how Gio would have done in the heat of a pennant race, because it seems Oakland will be forever rebuilding and deconstructing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) Arnie Munoz also was "famous" in the Sox organization for having the "wipeout" curve. Sometimes I laugh, or Dewon Day's amazing slider...or Willie Harris is a miniature Ray Durham. In this case, Gio is Barry Zito with a better fastball. Well, we shall see. He pitched very well his last time out. Also, there's a big difference pitching for the White Sox in the second half of 2007 versus 2008. I guess we will never know how Gio would have done in the heat of a pennant race, because it seems Oakland will be forever rebuilding and deconstructing. Dewon Day's slider might be the most overrated pitch in the history of baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 02:54 PM) Arnie Munoz also was "famous" in the Sox organization for having the "wipeout" curve. Sometimes I laugh, or Dewon Day's amazing slider...or Willie Harris is a miniature Ray Durham. In this case, Gio is Barry Zito with a better fastball. Well, we shall see. He pitched very well his last time out. Also, there's a big difference pitching for the White Sox in the second half of 2007 versus 2008. I guess we will never know how Gio would have done in the heat of a pennant race, because it seems Oakland will be forever rebuilding and deconstructing. I remember how excited I was for Munoz, especially after his AA season where he had like 15Ks/9 inn. He blew and that Montreal game was epic for how bad he was and how we almost came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) Arnie Munoz also was "famous" in the Sox organization for having the "wipeout" curve. Sometimes I laugh, or Dewon Day's amazing slider...or Willie Harris is a miniature Ray Durham. In this case, Gio is Barry Zito with a better fastball. Well, we shall see. He pitched very well his last time out. Also, there's a big difference pitching for the White Sox in the second half of 2007 versus 2008. I guess we will never know how Gio would have done in the heat of a pennant race, because it seems Oakland will be forever rebuilding and deconstructing. I remember Sports Illustrated saying that Munoz was the talk of Winter League with his Zito-esque curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) Am I the only in the gamethread? lol. you've apparently scared all the other gamethread posters to wsi, lol just kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 1-2-3 for Javy, is this ump loud or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 01:53 PM) Well he is young and you really didn't get to see his curve and changeup which is plus-plus pitch and a plus-pitch, respectively. If he gets ahead in the count, he can be dominant. But his control will always keep him from being an ACE. But I don't think people on here thought he was an ACE, just a very good top of the rotation guy (a John Danks type, not Halliday). I was always high on him, but now I think he is a middle of the rotation guy. That's pretty much what I saw him as with a bit more K's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Great start for Javy. Let's hope we get this Javy the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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