kev211 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Steff @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 10:44 AM) I agree with no to a politician also, but I also say no to MJ. Someone without dirty laundry to dig up would be a wiser choice. Today a member of either the Sox or Cubs would do. And for 2016 I'm sure a member of the 2015 World Champ White Sox will be worthy. Carlos Quentin But I thought an athlete from the USA does it and not someone who played/lived in the host city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The Tribune stating that Chicago's the front runner now. Also, if MJ is still alive, it will be him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Think "El" upgrades will be done by 2016? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 Another question .... can Chicago match or out do Beijing? They spent 40 billion dollars on the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Steff @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 10:44 AM) I agree with no to a politician also, but I also say no to MJ. Someone without dirty laundry to dig up would be a wiser choice. Today a member of either the Sox or Cubs would do. And for 2016 I'm sure a member of the 2015 World Champ White Sox will be worthy. I hear ya Steff, but as of today who would a better representive of Chicago than MJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:52 AM) I hear ya Steff, but as of today who would a better representive of Chicago than MJ? As I said above, if it must be a sports "star", there are many to choose from who aren't cheaters and compulsive gamblers with strong questions of their actions being related to the murder of their father and having been banned from the sport that made them famous for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:50 AM) Another question .... can Chicago match or out do Beijing? They spent 40 billion dollars on the games. We won't try to. It will be a different kind of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 08:07 AM) We won't try to. It will be a different kind of games. I agree. China saw the Olympics as sort of a coming-out party, and really went all out on the ceremonies. We don't really have to. This might be the first time Chicago ever hosted an Olympics but it still ain't our first rodeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 03:52 AM) I hear ya Steff, but as of today who would a better representive of Chicago than MJ? It's usually more about the host nation than the host city, though, right? MJ fits as a national icon AND as a former gold medal-winning Olympian, but if they passed him over for someone else, it wouldn't necessarily have to be a Chicago icon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I go to read the comments on the Tribune articles - which is a mistake, because the "comments" sections on news sites are generally a haven for some of the dumbest people in America to express their feelings - and I see tons of naysayers, crybabies, and Chicago-haters mixed in with the people who would absolutely love to have it. As a person who hails from Chicago, if it is done properly, I see NO reason why you should not want to have the Olympics in the city. None. Hosting the Olympics is not an individual honor, but a collective one that involves everyone. This may sound corny but I feel it's true... if you love your city, that's the highest honor there is to get recognition for it from the world. This would exceed even the White Sox winning it all, IMO. If that all is not enough then just look at the practical benefits that have already been discussed. If done properly, as I said, then the city will turn a profit or at least break even, but in either case, the investments to improve the city won't leave with the Olympics. It'll be reboot the city needs badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Well said The interesting thing is not only will Chicago feel the wave, but even the suburbs. It will be a hugely good thing for the entire Chicago Metropolitian area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 12:50 AM) Another question .... can Chicago match or out do Beijing? They spent 40 billion dollars on the games. Well, my question is...what all does that figure include? Clearly they spent some good money on the facilities, but I find it hard to believe that was a $25 billion stadium. Does that cost include things like the new airport, transportation upgrades, the economic cost of telling half its citizens not to drive for 3 weeks, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 08:07 AM) We won't try to. It will be a different kind of games. I agree with you. I don't think any of the cities in the running can, or are even promising, what China gave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 11:00 AM) Well, my question is...what all does that figure include? Clearly they spent some good money on the facilities, but I find it hard to believe that was a $25 billion stadium. Does that cost include things like the new airport, transportation upgrades, the economic cost of telling half its citizens not to drive for 3 weeks, etc.? China saved some money on labor though that we wouldnt be able to pull off. They made workers live on the construction site for way below minimum wage here in the US and in very bad living conditions which wouldnt happen here, especially with the union involvement in everything Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hypothetically speaking, where would they play baseball, the cell or boys town's finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 01:52 PM) Hypothetically speaking, where would they play baseball, the cell or boys town's finest. Barring a major change, baseball is no longer an olympic sport starting in 2012 I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) Barring a major change, baseball is no longer an olympic sport starting in 2012 I believe. Correct, but Trampolining is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) Barring a major change, baseball is no longer an olympic sport starting in 2012 I believe. Yes, I know there is talk of putting it back in for the 2016 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 04:12 PM) Yes, I know there is talk of putting it back in for the 2016 games. Unless they can somehow eliminate any doubt about drug use, find a way for all the games to be played in the exact abount of time, get Europe to ease up on their assholish behavior towards the US love of the game, and by far the most important to the IOC, get the pro's to play... baseball will not likely return in 2016. Rogge did an interview with Costas and said the list (though he wouldn't say what they were) of sports competing for the 2 open spots have "great potential". He hates baseball and has openly expressed that he's thrilled it's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Steff @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 04:25 PM) Unless they can somehow eliminate any doubt about drug use, find a way for all the games to be played in the exact abount of time, get Europe to ease up on their assholish behavior towards the US love of the game, and by far the most important to the IOC, get the pro's to play... baseball will not likely return in 2016. Rogge did an interview with Costas and said the list (though he wouldn't say what they were) of sports competing for the 2 open spots have "great potential". He hates baseball and has openly expressed that he's thrilled it's gone. We should put in more obscure sports that China can select people to train and get cheap gold medals in so they can use their medal count for better propaganda value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:56 PM) We should put in more obscure sports that China can select people to train and get cheap gold medals in so they can use their medal count for better propaganda value. Adding in baseball will not help the U.S. get a gold until the MLB starts taking 2 weeks off. (Barring true expansion of MLB to Cuba, Japan, and the Koreas, and those teams sucking up all their local talent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) We should put in more obscure sports that China can select people to train and get cheap gold medals in so they can use their medal count for better propaganda value. Chinese Checkers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 03:56 PM) We should put in more obscure sports that China can select people to train and get cheap gold medals in so they can use their medal count for better propaganda value. Like all of the silly BMX/snowboarding sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 As for the torch lighting...it HAS to be either Ditka or Da Superfans! Baseball will not come back in, but the USA softball loss in the gold medal game might just have saved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 03:57 PM) As for the torch lighting...it HAS to be either Ditka or Da Superfans! A giant cow kicking over a bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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