HuskyCaucasian Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 01:58 PM) Well there is at least one of those in every speech, especially when they are long ones. veto every beer? Still maybe my favorite presidential speech gaff ever. Edited August 23, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) veto every beer? Still maybe my favorite presidential speech gaff ever. No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 01:02 PM) No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime. Frankly, it's not even close. The only one I'd say goes up there with it is the legendary "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" and "I am not a crook". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 08:12 AM) I am not a huge Biden fan. I think he has some baggage (plagiarism, bankruptcy bill) but by and large he makes sense as a good pick. Can't attack Biden on family values, can't attack Biden on experience, and Biden adds the same level of foreign policy expertise that Dick Cheney did to a Bush nomination in 2000. I'm probably less of a Biden fan than most people here. Really never liked him and he's never given me reason to. I would honestly have preferred almost anyone else from the field, and I'd really have preferred a surprise choice somehow. I understand why he made the pick. It's the safest choice, it almost guarantees a win in the VP debate because the only thing weaker than the Dem VP selection field is the Republican VP selection field (seriously, Biden vs. Romney/Huckabee/Pawlenty/Jindal?), and at least he is suited to his one constitutional job...being ready to take over in the crisis that hits if the President is incapacitated. But honestly, it's not like I'm voting based on the VP, but if I were, I'd be a little less likely to vote for that ticket today than last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:10 PM) Frankly, it's not even close. The only one I'd say goes up there with it is the legendary "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" and "I am not a crook". Reagan was pretty hilarious. What was funny about that particular statement was the fact that the Soviets actually thought he was serious at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Why did Obama feel it necessary to bring up Biden's 'Catholic' faith? Is it because they want to have religion up front in case Romney is picked for the Republicans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:21 PM) Why did Obama feel it necessary to bring up Biden's 'Catholic' faith? Is it because they want to have religion up front in case Romney is picked for the Republicans? I think a number of factors: 1) Religious Vote 2) The people that believe Obama is a Muslim 3) Yea, Romney might be part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:21 PM) Why did Obama feel it necessary to bring up Biden's 'Catholic' faith? Is it because they want to have religion up front in case Romney is picked for the Republicans? It's part of the base that he still hasn't solidified... and he still has to deal with those "Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist" rumors that won't go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime. I stand corrected, Bush takes the top 5-10 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) No I still think Bush is up there at #1 with the "fool me once" gaffe. That one might never be topped in my lifetime. It'd be great to hear what some of the presidents of the past said like Andrew Jackson. He would've been a riot to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:10 PM) Frankly, it's not even close. The only one I'd say goes up there with it is the legendary "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" and "I am not a crook". Those aren't gaffes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 12:54 PM) Those aren't gaffes. "We begin bombing in 5 minutes" certainly was...in the sense that he didn't think the mic was on. "I am not a crook"...well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Also: why do people believe that McCain is going to bring Romney along? I'd be floored if that happened. It's just not a wise choice in any sense and is therefore highly unlikely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:55 PM) Also: why do people believe that McCain is going to bring Romney along? I'd be floored if that happened. It's just not a wise choice in any sense and is therefore highly unlikely to happen. Nevada, Colorado, Michigan Oh, and this Republican BS that Obama is using Biden to fill his "Foreign Policy" hole, and Romney is what? Just a monkey? No. Romney is to work the Economy angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 12:55 PM) Also: why do people believe that McCain is going to bring Romney along? I'd be floored if that happened. It's just not a wise choice in any sense and is therefore highly unlikely to happen. Who is better from McCain's list is the question? If Obama's list was weak, his is an abject disaster area. The top names are usually Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, Pawlenty, Charlie Crist, and then beyond that it gets even more obscure unless he can talk Petraeus in to rocking it. Tom Ridge is out there, but he's pro-choice. Then there's Holy Joe. McCain's going to run on how important experience is in this race, how we need his skill to deal with times of crisis and how Obama's just an inexperienced (Muslim) celebrity. Who from that list isn't exactly what he's hitting Obama on? Bunch of poorly known governors who you pick to try to pick up a state, and a couple of slightly bigger names who would absolutely piss off the base. Pick a name from McCain's possible list...and picture him having to hold his ground in a debate with Biden when the questions are asked about what in their experience prepares them to take over for the President in the event of a crisis. Romney at least has a solid business background to go along with his governorship. But frankly, there's not a looker in the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 By the way, it looks like they are going to stick with the BarackObama.com domain based on the new logo merchandise. This is most likely because there are "domain squatters" on the ObamaBiden sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:39 PM) It'd be great to hear what some of the presidents of the past said like Andrew Jackson. He would've been a riot to hear. I'd say Andrew Jackson would sound a lot like Bill "The Butcher" Cutting from "Gangs Of New York." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 02:35 PM) By the way, it looks like they are going to stick with the BarackObama.com domain based on the new logo merchandise. This is most likely because there are "domain squatters" on the ObamaBiden sites. Hell, as much infrastructure as they've built up at BarackObama.com, from the blogs to the individual pages, wouldn't moving all that stuff seem nearly impossible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 23, 2008 Author Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:05 PM) Hell, as much infrastructure as they've built up at BarackObama.com, from the blogs to the individual pages, wouldn't moving all that stuff seem nearly impossible? depends on how it is built. Most of that stuff is normally database heavy. It would be a"simple" transition for experts in my opinion. But from a time and money stand point it's just easier to stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:05 PM) Hell, as much infrastructure as they've built up at BarackObama.com, from the blogs to the individual pages, wouldn't moving all that stuff seem nearly impossible? couldn't you just change the domain name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 05:47 PM) couldn't you just change the domain name? si he could redirect the old url to the new one have the new url go to his home index Edited August 23, 2008 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 03:07 PM) Who is better from McCain's list is the question? If Obama's list was weak, his is an abject disaster area. The top names are usually Romney, Huckabee, Jindal, Pawlenty, Charlie Crist, and then beyond that it gets even more obscure unless he can talk Petraeus in to rocking it. Tom Ridge is out there, but he's pro-choice. Then there's Holy Joe. McCain's going to run on how important experience is in this race, how we need his skill to deal with times of crisis and how Obama's just an inexperienced (Muslim) celebrity. Who from that list isn't exactly what he's hitting Obama on? Bunch of poorly known governors who you pick to try to pick up a state, and a couple of slightly bigger names who would absolutely piss off the base. Pick a name from McCain's possible list...and picture him having to hold his ground in a debate with Biden when the questions are asked about what in their experience prepares them to take over for the President in the event of a crisis. Romney at least has a solid business background to go along with his governorship. But frankly, there's not a looker in the bunch. Absolutely spot on, Balta. And it disgusts me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) couldn't you just change the domain name? I would simply mirror the site to go to RSO.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 07:13 PM) Absolutely spot on, Balta. And it disgusts me. you don't think anyone on that list could debate Biden? i must disagree with you there. Biden is a complete doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 23, 2008 -> 07:14 PM) I would simply mirror the site to go to RSO.com. The Roanoke Symphony Orchestra would probably appreciate that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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