RockRaines Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 01:27 PM) That may be, but I don't want the team to have to deal with a grace period as Joe gets his ass in gear. Thats the issue, we all know for a fact now that Joe isnt healthy, which makes him a below average player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:26 PM) Yes he is. His glove has been good, even though he was errant with some throws. If he is healthy, Crede is much better at 3B than Juan. No he hasn't. I don't give a s*** if he makes a diving catch every once in a while if he's going to be f***ing up on the easy plays then he's not helping this team with his glove. What is a healthy Crede anyway? Has he even been healthy this season? I don't really get that term. Oh and Joe Crede has 11 fielding errors and 8 throwing, he should also have at least 13 fielding but he got a couple favorable calls from the official scorer just before going on the DL. So no, it hasn't just been errant throws, he's been booting a bunch of easy grounders. Joe Crede 2005/2006 >>>> Juan Uribe defensively, I'm definitely not going to argue that one. Joe Crede 2008 has been bad in the field, no where near the player he was a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 07:21 PM) Not this season. Yes this season except when Crede was injured. I'll give you this much: Uribe contributed more then Crede did when Crede was on the DL. Juan did a good job in his role and I am sure he will still do a good job. I am a Uribe supporter. I just think Joe Crede brings more to the table than Juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:30 PM) No he hasn't. I don't give a s*** if he makes a diving catch every once in a while if he's going to be f***ing up on the easy plays then he's not helping this team with his glove. What is a healthy Crede anyway? Has he even been healthy this season? I don't really get that term. Oh and Joe Crede has 11 fielding errors and 8 throwing, he should also have at least 13 fielding but he got a couple favorable calls from the official scorer just before going on the DL. So no, it hasn't just been errant throws, he's been booting a bunch of easy grounders. Joe Crede 2005/2006 >>>> Juan Uribe defensively, I'm definitely not going to argue that one. Joe Crede 2008 has been bad in the field, no where near the player he was a few years ago. Whoa, someone has some hate for Joe Crede. Are you ok Kal? And yes, a healthy Crede is better defensively, he isnt healthy right now like 2007, which means he probably isnt. And as much as its not good, Uribe is also better offensively than Joe right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:36 PM) Whoa, someone has some hate for Joe Crede. Are you ok Kal? And yes, a healthy Crede is better defensively, he isnt healthy right now like 2007, which means he probably isnt. And as much as its not good, Uribe is also better offensively than Joe right now. It's starting to get frustrating reading and hearing the same s*** over and over again. It seems the only reasoning behind this belief that some have that Crede will outproduce Uribe is a deep-seeded love for the man. There's no good dialogue going on, I'm trying to build a case off sound reasoning and all I'm met with is a s*** load wishful thinking and fanboy nonsense. I don't hate Joe Crede in fact I love Joe Crede 2006, he's pretty f***ing good and much better than Juan Uribe. I just don't think Joe Crede 2008 is going to help this team win, in fact I think he'll be a detriment. And no this isn't directed at you. Though your "errant throw" argument was totally wrong and pissed me off a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) It's starting to get frustrating reading and hearing the same s*** over and over again. It seems the only reasoning behind this belief that some have that Crede will outproduce Uribe is a deep-seeded love for the man. There's no good dialogue going on, I'm trying to build a case off sound reasoning and all I'm met with is a s*** load wishful thinking and fanboy nonsense. I don't hate Joe Crede in fact I love Joe Crede 2006, he's pretty f***ing good and much better than Juan Uribe. I just don't think Joe Crede 2008 is going to help this team win, in fact I think he'll be a detriment. And no this isn't directed at you. Though your "errant throw" argument was totally wrong and pissed me off a little. I HATE YOU!!! And its not completely baseless to think Crede is better than Uribe, his numbers all over the board are better than Juan's. Even playing crappy this year Joe's OPS is over a 100 points higher than Uribe's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 02:55 PM) I HATE YOU!!! And its not completely baseless to think Crede is better than Uribe, his numbers all over the board are better than Juan's. Even playing crappy this year Joe's OPS is over a 100 points higher than Uribe's. All I'm looking at is what Uribe has done since taking over for Crede at 3B because he's looked like a completely different player at the plate since that game in Texas (hell he has 9 walks in 100 PA). This current Uribe is a .825-.850 OPS player with dependable if not excellent defensive abilities and it's not like he would have to keep this up for an entire season, just a few more weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) All I'm looking at is what Uribe has done since taking over for Crede at 3B because he's looked like a completely different player at the plate since that game in Texas (hell he has 9 walks in 100 PA). This current Uribe is a .825-.850 OPS player with dependable if not excellent defensive abilities and it's not like he would have to keep this up for an entire season, just a few more weeks. Yes, but as we all know from watching his career, he will slump and those numbers will drop off to a sub .300 OBP and a low .200 BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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