"We Will Not Be Silenced"

[StrangeSox]

http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

 

What are your thoughts? Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me.

[Steve9347]

Well, these Hillary supporters are a bunch of f***tards.

[whitesoxfan101]

You can't ignore the fact that Obama is from Chicago, and dirty politics are as much a part of Chicago as cold weather is a part of the North Pole. Besides that, I don't buy it. Hillary ran a bad campaign and it got her beat, simple as that.

[Heads22]

You can't ignore the fact that Obama is from Chicago, and dirty politics are as much a part of Chicago as cold weather is a part of the North Pole. Besides that, I don't buy it. Hillary ran a bad campaign and it got her beat, simple as that.

 

The sole reason Obama won is because he mobilized the youth caucus-goers in Iowa.

 

Obama doesn't win Iowa, he doesn't win the nomination.

 

You're basically looking at his focus on the college campuses in Iowa City and Ames, having those kids go home to individual precincts over winter break (where it makes a bigger difference, cause delegate counts can and do shift on the thinking of one caucus goer).

 

At my caucus, there was not one Hillary supporter under 30. But there were enough under 30 to swing my ward to a tie between Edwards and Obama.

 

It's our fault.

 

The totally f***ed part?

 

At the caucuses, 17-29 year olds made up 22%. THE EXACT SAME as 65 and older, the ones that go Hillary's way. When's the last time you saw the amount of under 30 and over 65 voters match up? Especially on a cold January night?

[whitesoxfan101]

The sole reason Obama won is because he mobilized the youth caucus-goers in Iowa.

 

Obama doesn't win Iowa, he doesn't win the nomination.

 

You're basically looking at his focus on the college campuses in Iowa City and Ames, having those kids go home to individual precincts over winter break (where it makes a bigger difference, cause delegate counts can and do shift on the thinking of one caucus goer).

 

At my caucus, there was not one Hillary supporter under 30. But there were enough under 30 to swing my ward to a tie between Edwards and Obama.

 

It's our fault.

 

The totally f***ed part?

 

At the caucuses, 17-29 year olds made up 22%. THE EXACT SAME as 65 and older, the ones that go Hillary's way. When's the last time you saw the amount of under 30 and over 65 voters match up? Especially on a cold January night?

 

There's no question that Obama did a great job in Iowa and that was the only reason he was even in the race with a shot on Super Tuesday, let alone the favorite after it. But at the same time, Hillary lost the nomination more than Obama won it, IMO.

[bmags]

I agree, but that alone is astonishing. In 10 years when we aren't heated over the current election, people are going to look back in awe, that the greatest political machine in one of the two major US parties, was taken down by a 1st term senator with little national and next to no name recognition. IN addition to that, he was our first major minority candidate with a crazy name. It really was unbelievable, and the primary campaign that obama ran was so fun to watch, with Plouffe and Axelrod quietly gathering up as many delegates as they could even in losing efforts, while everyone else focused on wins, until people realized it was impossible for Hillary. THere's no way Obama could've won with Hillary's style of campaign. What an interesting primary to study for a political science major.