Marky Mark Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 What would you say is the order of our MLB roster from best to worst? This includes injured players. How much faith do you have in your guys? 1) Carlos Quentin 2) Gavin Floyd 3) Mark Buehrle 4) Jermaine Dye 5) Bobby Jenks 6) Jon Danks 7) Jim Thome 8) Alexie Ramirez 9) Javy Vazquez 10) Paul Konerko 11) Orlando Cabrera 12) Scott Linebrink 13) Joe Crede 14) Matt Thornton 15) Nick Swisher 16) AJ Pierzynski 17) Octavio Dotel 18) Juan Uribe 19) Jr. 20) Jose Contreras 21) Dewayne Wise 22) Brian Anderson 23) DJ Carrasco 24) Toby Hall 25) Clayton Richard 26) Lance Broadway 27) Boone Logan I'm too lazy to list any more. What would you guys at least ranks as the top 15 on our team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) Swisher could be over Griffey for defensive utility, but as far as what the team needs Griffey is a lot more valuable being able to actually put a bat on the ball. 1) Quentin 2) Alexei 3) Floyd 4) Danks 5) Dye 6) Thome 7) OC 8) Thornton 9) PK 10) Jenks 11) AJ 12) Uribe 13) Griffey 14) Dotel 15) Wise 16) Swish er but throw Javy somewhere smack in the middle, and if Linebrink is 100% healthy he's top 5 What would be a lot of fun is if someone put up their estimate of an Ozzie list. 1) Jerry Owens 2) Jerry Owens 3) Jerry Owens 4) Jerry Owens 5) Jerry Owens 999) Jerry Owens Edited September 20, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I don't get the question - is it on the basis of overall value if you were going to start a franchise today? Or just quality of performance to date this year? By VORP, its: Quentin 51.1 Danks 47.1 Dye 36.2 Thome 34.1 Buehrle 31.1 Vazquez 28.6 Floyd 26.3 Ramirez 21.7 Thornton 21.7 Cabrera 21.4 Jenks 19.9 Pierzynski 15.2 Contreras 14.6 Linebrink 12.2 Wise 9.5 (!) Konerko 9.3 Carrasco 8.9 Dotel 7.1 Crede 6.5 Swisher 6.3 McDougal 6.3 Brian Anderson 2.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) What would be interesting is a list of their importance to the overall team strengths. which is kind of chicken and the egg, but it would really highlight the importance of Cabrera, who is rare on this roster for being able to make contact, get on base and maybe steal And then make less important someone like Swisher, who is more of the same re: power but low speed and (this yr) disappointing OBP Edited September 20, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Wise and Anderson should be ranked higher. Crede should be much lower with his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 QUOTE (BlackBetsy @ Sep 20, 2008 -> 01:00 PM) I don't get the question - is it on the basis of overall value if you were going to start a franchise today? Or just quality of performance to date this year? By VORP, its: Quentin 51.1 Danks 47.1 Dye 36.2 Thome 34.1 Buehrle 31.1 Vazquez 28.6 Floyd 26.3 Ramirez 21.7 Thornton 21.7 Cabrera 21.4 Jenks 19.9 Pierzynski 15.2 Contreras 14.6 Linebrink 12.2 Wise 9.5 (!) Konerko 9.3 Carrasco 8.9 Dotel 7.1 Crede 6.5 Swisher 6.3 McDougal 6.3 Brian Anderson 2.3 Wow, look at Wise. If that was normalized for playing time, he'd skyrocket to the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 QUOTE (3E8 @ Sep 20, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Wow, look at Wise. If that was normalized for playing time, he'd skyrocket to the top Only if he bats against RHP all the time. He's been murdering it this year. Against LHP in a fraction of the ABs he has a .308 OPS. Wise should start against every RHP for the rest of the year and see some time in the playoffs as well, if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (3E8 @ Sep 20, 2008 -> 01:22 PM) Wow, look at Wise. If that was normalized for playing time, he'd skyrocket to the top while it's not totally indicative, it's scary how many HRs he'd have over a year vs. righties Edited September 20, 2008 by Princess Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) 1) Carlos Quentin 2) John Danks 3) Jermaine Dye 4) Gavin Floyd 5) Mark Buehrle 6) Bobby Jenks 7) Jim Thome 8) Alexei Ramirez 9) Paul Konerko 10) Orlando Cabrera 11) Javy Vazquez 12) Scott Linebrink 13) Matt Thornton 14) AJ Pierzynski 15) Nick Swisher 16) Octavio Dotel 17) Juan Uribe 18) Dewayne Wise 19) DJ Carrasco 20) Brian Anderson 21) Joe Crede 22) Jose Contreras 23) Ken Griffey Jr. 24) Clayton Richard 25) Toby Hall 26) Lance Broadway 27) Boone Logan Edited September 20, 2008 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I can't believe princess dye would put alexei over dye. I like the vorp list. I'll go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Where's Griffey on the VORP list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 20, 2008 -> 08:48 PM) Where's Griffey on the AARP list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 20, 2008 -> 03:48 PM) Where's Griffey on the VORP list? Too crappy to be considered (His VORP with the Sox is 0.8, which would be last among those listed) Edited September 20, 2008 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 My top ten favorites in order are: CQ Dye Alexei Bobby Floyd Buehrle Thome AJP Danks Vaz My least favorite with Boone Logan the worst (this year production only) Boone Ramirez (the reliever) Wasserman Dotel Contreras Swish Paulie OC Uribe Griffey My bottom ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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