Royals shift rotation, Meche and Greinke (?) to face Twins

[caulfield12]

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/prob...mp;ymd=20080926

 

Earlier in the week, Meche was slated to start Sunday with Greinke getting his final start of the season today.

 

Looks like Hillman/Moore are definitely looking at skipping Duckworth's final start so Greinke can get one more in, on what could be the most important day of the season, with Buehrle facing Cy Young winner Cliff Lee (unless K-Rod gets it).

 

 

[Kalapse]

K-Rod is no where near Cliff Lee. Rodriguez is having one of the least impressive record breaking seasons I've ever seen.

[caulfield12]

K-Rod is no where near Cliff Lee. Rodriguez is having one of the least impressive record breaking seasons I've ever seen.

 

 

Yep, quite a few teams have gotten to him this year or pushed him to the brink, unlike, say, 2002-2003. Actually, the White Sox have always fared comparably well against the guy, I think we've forced blown saves 2-3 times in his career, unlike Mo Rivera.

 

I'm just saying, some of the baseball writers that don't stay up late (the Bristol/NY/Boston crowd) haven't really watched the guy very much this year. They just see the Angels' record and the sheer number of saves.

 

Also, please/please/please, Javier Vazquez DO NOT let Justin Morneau beat you or throw a meatball with a 3-1 or 2-0 count. Walk him with the bases loaded, I don't care Ozzie. I would rather that than a grand slam or bases-clearing double into the RCF gap.

[Kalapse]

Yep, quite a few teams have gotten to him this year or pushed him to the brink, unlike, say, 2002-2003. Actually, the White Sox have always fared comparably well against the guy, I think we've forced blown saves 2-3 times in his career, unlike Mo Rivera.

 

I'm just saying, some of the baseball writers that don't stay up late (the Bristol/NY/Boston crowd) haven't really watched the guy very much this year. They just see the Angels' record and the sheer number of saves.

 

Also, please/please/please, Javier Vazquez DO NOT let Justin Morneau beat you or throw a meatball with a 3-1 or 2-0 count. Walk him with the bases loaded, I don't care Ozzie. I would rather that than a grand slam or bases-clearing double into the RCF gap.

He has 8 saves that took less than 3 outs to get and 0 multi-inning saves, 6 blown saves, has allowed a good amount of runs and more baserunners than any of the other elite closers this season. He just hasn't been all that dominant, he's just had an incredible amount of save opportunities which has more to do with luck than anything he's done on the mound. When Smoltz saved 55 in '02 he had 8 multi-inning saves and only 1 save that required less than 3 outs to record, he also had over 80 IP that year compared to K-Rod's poultry paltry 67.

[caulfield12]

He has 8 saves that took less than 3 outs to get and 0 multi-inning saves, 6 blown saves, has allowed a good amount of runs and more baserunners than any of the other elite closers this season. He just hasn't been all that dominant, he's just had an incredible amount of save opportunities which has more to do with luck than anything he's done on the mound. When Smoltz saved 55 in '02 he had 8 multi-inning saves and only 1 save that required less than 3 outs to record, he also had over 80 IP that year compared to K-Rod's poultry 67.

 

 

Same thing with Thigpen the year he broke the record. He was a very good closer, but far from lights-out. The majority of those saves, like Jenks, you were on the edge of your seat and throwing the remote at the t.v. if you forgot to put it down.

 

I also think the years of overuse are catching up with Shields and K-Rod.

Edited September 23, 2008 by caulfield12

[SoxFan562004]

Same thing with Thigpen the year he broke the record. He was a very good closer, but far from lights-out. The majority of those saves, like Jenks, you were on the edge of your seat and throwing the remote at the t.v. if you forgot to put it down.

 

I also think the years of overuse are catching up with Shields and K-Rod.

Which will make it laughable when a team gives him an insane contract

[Balta1701]

Which will make it laughable when a team gives him an insane contract

If that team is someone like the Mets or the Brewers...all they need to do is have him stay healthy. He could perform worse than he did this year but if all he does is give them someone who willingly takes the ball at the end of the game and doesn't freeze up completely they'll judge it to be worth the money.

[The Critic]

He has 8 saves that took less than 3 outs to get and 0 multi-inning saves, 6 blown saves, has allowed a good amount of runs and more baserunners than any of the other elite closers this season. He just hasn't been all that dominant, he's just had an incredible amount of save opportunities which has more to do with luck than anything he's done on the mound. When Smoltz saved 55 in '02 he had 8 multi-inning saves and only 1 save that required less than 3 outs to record, he also had over 80 IP that year compared to K-Rod's poultry 67.

So you're saying it's a chicken-s*** record?

[IamPabloOzuna]

He has 8 saves that took less than 3 outs to get and 0 multi-inning saves, 6 blown saves, has allowed a good amount of runs and more baserunners than any of the other elite closers this season. He just hasn't been all that dominant, he's just had an incredible amount of save opportunities which has more to do with luck than anything he's done on the mound. When Smoltz saved 55 in '02 he had 8 multi-inning saves and only 1 save that required less than 3 outs to record, he also had over 80 IP that year compared to K-Rod's poultry 67.

 

chicken saves?

[Kalapse]

So you're saying it's a chicken-s*** record?

I typed it out, noticed the mistake but let it go because I thought it was kinda funny.

[southsider2k5]

Which will make it laughable when a team gives him an insane contract

 

I'm personally hoping it is the Tigers.