Flash Tizzle Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) You know what I've always wondered, and maybe it happens so I could be wrong -- why don't players in a lineup work together to look for different pitches? Like first time through, odd lineup players look for fastball; even players for breaking ball. Mix it up a little bit. It was obvious no one in the lineup was sitting on anything with a ripple; because Blackburn was hanging pitches left and right. And what about his high changeups? Jesus Christ. Are we the only team who can't hit that? DJ said something yesterday that was interesting. He noticed that in tough situations Minnesota pitchers were typically grooving pitches into the plate for strike one to get ahead. Offhand I know Blackburn and Nathan did it. Just a little hanging breaking ball over the plate. If we're in another bases loaded, 2 outs scenario someone has to be looking for a hanger to absolutely crush. Early in the count. Edited September 25, 2008 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Exact same lineup tonight. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I wonder if Minny will continue to throw first-pitch breaking balls for strikes tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (G&T @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 02:35 PM) Exact same lineup tonight. Awesome. Well, I'll hold off my anger until someone not as lazy as me finds out the career numbers our starters have against Slowey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpay10 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) Slowey...1-2 with a 5.87 ERA last 3 starts...so lets get on him early and often Edited September 25, 2008 by griffey17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 This reminds me of the Red Hot Chili Peppers song lyric.... "Give it away... give it away now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (griffey17 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:40 PM) Slowey...1-2 with a 5.87 ERA last 3 starts...so letys get on him early and often blackburn over his last 2 starts, 20+ ERA irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 04:37 PM) Well, I'll hold off my anger until someone not as lazy as me finds out the career numbers our starters have against Slowey. White Sox hitters vs Kevin Slowey 2008 2003-2007 Hitter AVG AB HR RBI AVG AB HR RBI Anderson, Brian .000 1 0 0 .000 1 0 0 Bourgeois, Jason - - - - - - - - Cabrera, Orlando .286 7 0 0 .400 10 0 0 Crede, Joe .500 4 0 1 .500 4 0 1 Dye, Jermaine .429 7 1 2 .364 11 1 2 Fields, Josh .333 3 0 0 .333 6 0 0 Getz, Chris - - - - - - - - Griffey Jr., Ken - - - - - - - - Hall, Toby .000 2 0 0 .000 3 0 0 Konerko, Paul .250 8 0 2 .167 12 0 2 Owens, Jerry - - - - .200 5 0 0 Phillips, Paul - - - - - - - - Pierzynski, A.J. .429 7 0 0 .429 7 0 0 Quentin, Carlos .250 8 0 0 .250 8 0 0 Ramirez, Alexei .375 8 0 1 .375 8 0 1 Swisher, Nick .143 7 1 3 .222 9 1 3 Thome, Jim .000 5 0 0 .000 6 0 0 Uribe, Juan .500 2 1 2 .571 7 1 3 Wise, Dewayne .000 1 0 0 .000 1 0 0 Looks like Cabrera, Dye, AJ, Alexei, Uribe do well. Thome, Konerko, Wise, Swish do not. Griffey's never faced him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) Looks like Cabrera, Dye, AJ, Alexei, Uribe do well. Thome, Konerko, Wise, Swish do not. Griffey's never faced him. Sorry, but those numbers are in like 2, 3, or sometimes maybe 7 at bats. It's really hard for me to draw any conclusions from those, especially given that some of them (i.e. Konerko, Swisher) might well have faced him during their big slumps. One hit is the difference between doing well and not doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 I am so pissed Ozzie is going to let this team die with Jermaine hitting 3rd. I am not advocating yanking him out of the lineup, but he should not be hitting 3rd. Wow, I can't believe he ran the same lineup out there. Dewayne Wise has a good 1-2 weeks and he just gets to play with no questions asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 04:46 PM) Sorry, but those numbers are in like 2, 3, or sometimes maybe 7 at bats. It's really hard for me to draw any conclusions from those, especially given that some of them (i.e. Konerko, Swisher) might well have faced him during their big slumps. One hit is the difference between doing well and not doing well. Of course they are. Slowey hasn't been in the majors that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 12:50 PM) Of course they are. Slowey hasn't been in the majors that long. After tonight...all of our guys will be hitting over .600 against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) After tonight...all of our guys will be hitting over .600 against him. From your mouth to God's ears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoarow Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 i cant believe wise is playing, i feel sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Same lineup tonight? Haha....unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 02:54 PM) i cant believe wise is playing, i feel sick That is the one that bugs me the most, unless Slowey gets absolutely nailed by lefties, but still, even though he's struggled this year, Swisher would be the far better option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:57 PM) Same lineup tonight? Haha....unbelievable. far from unbelievable, this is ozzie guillen's M.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:57 PM) Same lineup tonight? Haha....unbelievable. that s the meaning of insanity,trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) I didnt mean to come out you, my bad dude. Just a s***ty day at work if ya know what i mean. No problem. I've been trying to be ultra negative the whole series except for my backing of Oz to pull off the reverse jinx, and it's still not working. Do we ever hit homers at the Twink dome? No matter everybody's ranting about lineups, etc., with our team it boils down to home runs and hoping we get the good Dotel, etc. We don't hit homers at the homerdome do we? When we don't homer and homer often, we is done. Edited September 25, 2008 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:59 PM) that s the meaning of insanity,trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result maybe he thinks that hey, theres no way we can suck this badly 3 games in a row? Lol go sox! we need this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 lets win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) Same lineup tonight? Haha....unbelievable. Does anyone know if everyone is in the same order? I assume this is what everyone means when they say "same lineup" but I haven't seen anything posted. I could atleast understand the same players, because there aren't many alternatives, but having everyone in the same exact f***ing order after last night is ridiculous. This series has shown the 3-4-5 haven't done s***. Do we want Wise up again in crucial situations again? Either he's thinking "I need to stick to one lineup" or "I'll show those people who are criticizing me whose boss by not changing one damn thing!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 02:11 PM) Do we want Wise up again in crucial situations again? law of averages? who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 The only excuse I have for Ozzie is that this is not a good time to experiment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Wise sucks, but it's another either way Oz gets ripped. Everybody says our style of play can't win in the dome and Wise and Cabrera at least have some wheels. I assume Swish isn't playing. Looks like he's the one guy Oz finally grew sick of trotting out there and sucking on a fairly regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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