2008 White Sox = Failure

[Milkman delivers]

I really have a hard time blaming the coaching staff. I am really torn as a Sox fan right now. I really am impressed with what Williams did this off-season after a terrible year, but at the same time, the team is one of the most one dimensional teams I have ever seen watching baseball.

 

Walker coaches these guys to not only play to their strengths, but to the ballparks strength. It just so happens most of the lineups strength is built around an all or nothing approach. As I have said, the Sox need some different style hitters to mold around the power.

 

That's not the point. When a team fails miserably so consistently, heads have to roll. Coaches are fired all the time, even if they don't really deserve it, because a statement has to be made. Walker, at the very least, needs to go.

[Milkman delivers]

Failing miserably is what the Mariners did this season. If the Sox win 2 games in Minnesota, none of this is being talked about. I don't know if "heads rolling" is really necessary.

 

 

 

So because other dumb organizations make irrational moves, the Sox should follow?

 

You purposely altered my statements. I didn't say organizations that fire their coaches are dumb. Sometimes managers/coaches have to be fired, even if they had a nice streak of winning. When teams fail, the people who are in charge of the team have to pay the price. They know it, that's how it works in professional sports.

 

And the White Sox have faded down the stretch in every season since 2000 besides on year. That is consistent failure, and someone needs to get the axe for that.

Edited September 26, 2008 by Milkman delivers

[alexgtp]

White Sox have surpassed everyones expectations. How is that being a failure?

They were picked to finish last. This board picked them to finish 3-4. I

A division title would be nice. A WS title even better. I for one an estatic at how well the Sox have performed this year. I will be at the games all weekend rooting my team into the post season. This board really needs to be more positive.

[Milkman delivers]

White Sox have surpassed everyones expectations. How is that being a failure?

They were picked to finish last. This board picked them to finish 3-4. I

A division title would be nice. A WS title even better. I for one an estatic at how well the Sox have performed this year. I will be at the games all weekend rooting my team into the post season. This board really needs to be more positive.

 

You know, I would buy this dumb ass argument if the team and management openly said at the beginning of the year that they believed they would finish in fourth or fifth place. Just because some analysts said we were supposed to suck, and then we didn't, and then we choked away the year, does not mean this year wasn't a failure.

[Milkman delivers]

I'm sick and tired of people saying that we shouldn't be upset or angry that we didn't win the division because "we were picked to finish in fourth place." The people who are saying this are the same people who would've asked in the beginning of the year what these "analysts" know, and say, "that's why they play the games." But, now that the Sox have fallen apart, it's "let's not get angry because this is better than what ESPN told us would happen." f*** that. Kenny Williams told us that he would not rebuild, and that he would put a team out there to try to win the division. That didn't happen. This year was a failure, period.

[southsider2k5]

And I am sick and tired of everyone saying this year was a failure dispite all of the good things that happened this year. In 2008 we found not one, but two front of the rotation pitchers. We found an MVP for left field. We found our SS for the next few years and we spent less than five million dollars total to do it. We had prospects emerge out of our farm system that look like they might actually help this franchise in the next couple of years, including three minor league teams that made their playoffs. We were in first place for over 150 days this year. Our attendence stayed steady so we won't have to cut payroll in 2009

 

I know many people wasted the good times worrying this year about what bad was going to happen, and totally missed the good, but it was there. Its all perspective.

[StrangeSox]

White Sox have surpassed everyones expectations. How is that being a failure?

They were picked to finish last. This board picked them to finish 3-4. I

A division title would be nice. A WS title even better. I for one an estatic at how well the Sox have performed this year. I will be at the games all weekend rooting my team into the post season. This board really needs to be more positive.

 

They exceeded the expected win total by about 5 games (wasn't the average around here 82-83 games?). Minnesota and Chicago are contending because Cleveland and Detriot did much, much worse than everyone thought they would, not because the Sox and Twins were much, much better.