lostfan Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 07:44 PM) It has to do with the level of chaos and non-health of the general public there. Millions of people have starved, and much of the country is malnourished and not properly cared for. I assumed that's what he was talking about, but the way he said it it seemed like such a non-sequitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) Gallup has Obama up 8 points now as well. not sure it's been posted yet http://www.gallup.com/poll/110740/Gallup-D...50-42-Lead.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 11:56 AM) http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-h...let-where-media Apparently the family has asked Obama to stop wearing and talking about the bracelet, but he has decided to ignore them and do it anyway. imagine that, they don't want their sons death to be used as a political stunt by the Obama campaign. classy move by mr.Obama to ignore them and continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 08:26 PM) imagine that, they don't want their sons death to be used as a political stunt by the Obama campaign. classy move by mr.Obama to ignore them and continue. Oops, turns out that story wasn't true. http://www.nbc15.com/state/headlines/29864149.html MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet. Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 09:10 PM) Oops, turns out that story wasn't true. http://www.nbc15.com/state/headlines/29864149.html A Wisconsin soldier? I guess no one in Illinois warranted his attention? After all, he is the Senator from Illinois. I guess he hasn't quite grasped the meaningless gestures of Presidential campaigning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 07:09 PM) I assumed that's what he was talking about, but the way he said it it seemed like such a non-sequitor. Its one of those seemingly worthless tidbits of info laced into both candidates responses that demonstrate they get beyond the big glowing positions, and actually have a feel for the details on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 27, 2008 -> 02:34 PM) Obamas idea of middle class is people that make 30k I make just above 30K and I live month to month...I consider myself in the middle class...I dont get what your trying to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) I make just above 30K and I live month to month...I consider myself in the middle class...I dont get what your trying to say Call this a pre-emptive Admin strike... let's all be very careful if we are going to discuss each other's salaries or wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 07:26 PM) Call this a pre-emptive Admin strike... let's all be very careful if we are going to discuss each other's salaries or wages. my bad...dont mean to press the issue I was just wondering if he meant 30K was below or above middle class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 12:35 PM) my bad...dont mean to press the issue I was just wondering if he meant 30K was below or above middle class... You can discuss it. I just wanted to put that quick warning out there to be careful on the topic, and it wasn't directed specifically at you or anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) I make just above 30K and I live month to month...I consider myself in the middle class...I dont get what your trying to say I always considered middle class higher than that. I dont make much more, I guess Ive just always thought middle class was around 60k. Just a difference in opinion for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 07:58 PM) I always considered middle class higher than that. I dont make much more, I guess Ive just always thought middle class was around 60k. Just a difference in opinion for that matter. Depends on the region. 30k isn't going to get you very far inmost of Maryland. Somewhere out west, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 06:06 PM) Depends on the region. 30k isn't going to get you very far inmost of Maryland. Somewhere out west, maybe. haha nice signature oh and the Dodges just hit a grand slam off the Demster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 08:09 PM) haha nice signature That time of year again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 28, 2008 -> 01:14 PM) well if you are sick of it, it's the GOPs fault. One of their initial attacks about Obama was that he was an elitist. It was a stupid line of action considering McCain is absurdly rich. Obama did not make all his money until his books the last decade. He was a professor and state senator. That's not $$$$$ He was/is a lawyer and his wife was/is a lawyer. Their first jobs were at Sidley Austin, one of the top firms in the country. So, at a young age, they were making bank - well over 100k a year each. Money has never been a problem in the Obama household. It's just as absurd for him to talk about the poor as if he's experienced it as it is for McCain to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Im not a very political person mostly because I just dont care. But, I happened to be at work during the debate so I ended up watching. I consider myself an independent, if I vote I dont care so much as party as who seems best fit. To me, Obama seemed to do an ok enough job while McCain came off as an idiot in my opinion. Although just for the lone fact of who he chose for VP I could never vote for McCain if that makes me biased at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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