Who would you like to see gone before '09?

[knightni]

CQ is exempt.

 

 

[Princess Dye]

Jenks and Thome trade nets some real value and lets us move some pieces around.

 

(tell Thome no playing time here for him if he vetoes)

[Chet Lemon]

Toby Hall, DJ Carrasco, Ken Griffey Jr., DeWayne Wise, Mike MacDougal, Horacio Ramirez, and Javier Vazquez

[Rooftop Shots]

The Booner! Let him go join the Danny Wright fan club

[DaTank]

I went with Josh Fields, Nick Swisher (his attitude lately has been pissing me off), DJ Carrasco, Jerry Owens, Ken Griffey Jr., Javier Vazquez, Boone Logan, Mike MacDougal, Horacio Ramirez, and Ehren Wassermann

[Jack Parkman]

I want a Firesale. You keep Danks, Gavin, Quentin, and Ramirez, and build around them. Everyone else is fair game. Buehrle included. I think Ozzie will resign(I mean quit) if the Sox don't make the playoffs. Someone will overpay for these guys. Realistically, Thome will still be here because of his immense salary, But this team needs to be rebuilt.

[C_LEE45]

I want vazquez,and OC gone TONIGHT,i want thome,griffey,uribe,macdougle,DJ carrasco,wasserman,and i think Kenny needs to go out and get a TRUE #1 starter like CC(but yankees wont let that happen) if we had a good #1 we wouldnt have slumps like this,just look what johan did for the mets(3 days rest and then a complete game) and MORE AND MORE SPEED!!!!!!

[SoxFanForever]

Has Thome's option vested? Where is Kalapse when I need him?

[whitesoxfan101]

A.J.

Toby

Fields (trade him while you can get anything for him)

Crede

Swisher

Linebrink (trade him while you can get anything for him)

Jenks (trade him while he has value)

Carrasco

Owens (no real value to the major league team)

Griffey (washed up)

Wise (being exposed for what he is)

Vazquez

Logan

MacDougal (no control)

Ramirez (bad)

Wassermann (bad)

Williams

Guillen

 

(I know that's not realistic, but that's my answer to the specific question asked). If they don't have a parenthesis notation after their name, I think they've quit.

Edited September 28, 2008 by whitesoxfan101

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

Crede, Carrasco, Owens, Griffey (a little torn, 51/49 in favor of going), same with Wise. Vazquez, Logan, Ramirez, and finally Wasserman. Surprised at the amount that want OCab gone though- he was far from the problem and would probably be the #2 hitter following the addition of a leadoff hitter. His glovework was worse than advertised, but he finds himself on winning teams, was part of our offensive resurgence after that lol start we had, and lastly, we wouldn't have to worry about looking for infield help. Alexei's a SS but there ARE such things as good rookie seasons followed by a swift plunge off the earth. Besides, he plays second just fine.

[joejoesox]

Crede, Thome, Carrasco, Junior, Javy, Boonerz, McDonalds, Horriblio, Wassermullet, and promote Buddy Bell to GM

 

 

Leave Konerko at 1st, JD to DH, Brian Anderson to CF, Swisher to RF, CQ to LF

 

____?? 3B, ____?? 2B/SS, Alexei 2B/SS

 

AJ C

PK 1B

AR 2B/SS

?? 2B/SS

?? 3B

CQ LF

BA CF

NS RF

JD DH

 

IMO this team will not be a contending team in 2009 (But, it wasn't supposed to contend in 2008 either. So who knows, just my opinion as of right now), so giving BA a full, healthy year in CF doesn't necessarily hurt this team for the future

 

Try to use draft picks from OC, Junior, and Crede, to shore up the 3B and SS spots of the lineup perhaps

 

Lineup would look something like:

 

?? 2B/SS (Brian Roberts? lol)

Alexei Ramirez - 2B/SS

Carlos Quentin - LF

Jermaine Dye - DH

Paul Konerko - 1B

?? 3B

Nick Swisher RF

Brian Anderson CF

AJ Pierzynski C

 

Whatever!

[caulfield12]

Crede, Thome, Carrasco, Junior, Javy, Boonerz, McDonalds, Horriblio, Wassermullet, and promote Buddy Bell to GM

 

 

Leave Konerko at 1st, JD to DH, Brian Anderson to CF, Swisher to RF, CQ to LF

 

____?? 3B, ____?? 2B/SS, Alexei 2B/SS

 

AJ C

PK 1B

AR 2B/SS

?? 2B/SS

?? 3B

CQ LF

BA CF

NS RF

JD DH

 

IMO this team will not be a contending team in 2009 (But, it wasn't supposed to contend in 2008 either. So who knows, just my opinion as of right now), so giving BA a full, healthy year in CF doesn't necessarily hurt this team for the future

 

Try to use draft picks from OC, Junior, and Crede, to shore up the 3B and SS spots of the lineup perhaps

 

Lineup would look something like:

 

?? 2B/SS (Brian Roberts? lol)

Alexei Ramirez - 2B/SS

Carlos Quentin - LF

Jermaine Dye - DH

Paul Konerko - 1B

?? 3B

Nick Swisher RF

Brian Anderson CF

AJ Pierzynski C

 

Whatever!

 

 

We are going to buy out Griffey's option (I think we already have some money from the Reds) and it's 50/50 if we offer Crede arbitration...and uncertain if he would accept (if Boras thinks he can get a better deal, he's gone). But the worst-case scenario is bringing him back for $5-10 million, he can't play, and we have no back-up plan with Uribe probably gone in that case and Fields' status at best murky/uncertain.

 

There's just no logical reason to bring Griffey back if Thome is here still.

[Leonard Zelig]

Has Thome's option vested? Where is Kalapse when I need him?

 

Based on what he (Kalapse) said the other day, I'm sure it has.

[nitetrain8601]

Wow, everyone wants Junior gone most? I say those people are mad. He was actually one to step up this past week and probably month. Everyone else for the most part has blown minus OCab.

[Leonard Zelig]

Wow, everyone wants Junior gone most? I say those people are mad. He was actually one to step up this past week and probably month. Everyone else for the most part has blown minus OCab.

 

Well, it's probably more of a fear of how Ozzie would use him, I sure don't want to see in CF for 150 games.

[juddling]

In no particular order....Vasquez, Jose Contraras(sp), Thome, Paulie, and I'm torn on Swish

[kjshoe04]

I can't believe Javy doesn't have the most votes.

[Baines3]

The first one I would get rid of would be Javier Vazquez.

 

I would get rid of Contreras also. I always like him but he is the end of the line. As for Swisher I would like to keep him for another year.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Baines3

[lostfan]

Wow, everyone wants Junior gone most? I say those people are mad. He was actually one to step up this past week and probably month. Everyone else for the most part has blown minus OCab.

I love Junior but at this stage in his career he adds nothing to the team besides awesomeness.

[lostfan]

The first one I would get rid of would be Javier Vazquez.

 

I would get rid of Contreras also. I always like him but he is the end of the line. As for Swisher I would like to keep him for another year.

Without some major deal we can't get rid of them both. Pitchers don't just grow on trees, even career .500 pitchers like Vazquez which is why he makes so much money.

Edited September 28, 2008 by lostfan

[knightni]

I didn't include Contreras because he has no value due to his injury.

[nitetrain8601]

Well I said in the chat the other day, I think the Sox would be best suited putting Contreras in the pen as he still has enough for 3 innings, but can't pull out 6 innings out of his like usual. I think if he was a middle reliever where he only had to pitch one inning, it would be better since he could go all out and not having to worry about the next inning.

 

With that said, I think we are two starters away. Buehrle, Danks, and Floyd are really good glue guys to have in there. I would like a Sabathia, then maybe bring back Freddy. Burnett's injury history and his Javier-esque approach don't appeal to me.

[Paulie4Pres]

This thread should be "who WOULDN'T you like to see gone before '09"?

 

Because, as it stands, there's maybe 5-6 players I'd like to see back in a Sox uniform next year. I would love to see the majority of these guys never play with the Sox again.

[Baines3]

Joe Crede is another one I think should go. I always liked Crede but he is always going to have back trouble. We could have a number of changes before 2009.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Baines3

[shipps]

Swisher,Carrasco,and H.Ramirez better be gone.Nick would rather be gone if you ask me.