NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 So, if you are Ozzie/KW, who do you put on your 25 man roster? Also, if anyone sees the actual 25 man posted, feel free to post it in this thread. My 25 man... AJP PK Lexi O-Cab Uribe Dye Junior Swish Thome Wise* Anderson Bourgeois Hall Buehrle Vaz Danks Floyd Jenks Thornton Dotel Linebrink H Ramirez Carrasco MacDougal Richard * = if CQ is healthy, he replaces Wise I could see keeping Russell or Wassermann over Ramirez or Richard, since you've got 2 other lefties in there, that's a tough call. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 do you have to set it for all of the playoffs or just each series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) I could see keeping Russell or Wassermann over Ramirez Thoughts? You need to hand in your sox fan license if are thinking of leaving Alexei off the roster for wasserman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 08:57 AM) do you have to set it for all of the playoffs or just each series? I think its series by series. If its all postseason, then you have to put CQ in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:57 AM) do you have to set it for all of the playoffs or just each series? Each series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:58 AM) Each series. cool. then no CQ for the ALDS, but he's in there for the ALCS. I'd put Russell over Ramirez actually... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Any idea when the roster must be submitted by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 08:59 AM) cool. then no CQ for the ALDS, but he's in there for the ALCS. I'd put Russell over Ramirez actually... Russell has faced 1 batter since September 9th. I don't think he's in the plan, but, I could be wrong. More likely Wassermann in that case. Also, its possible they keep CQ in addition to that bench I mentioned earlier, and drop one from the pen, going with 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 What positions can Bourgeois play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 10:37 AM) What positions can Bourgeois play? Pretty much them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:02 AM) Russell has faced 1 batter since September 9th. I don't think he's in the plan, but, I could be wrong. More likely Wassermann in that case. Also, its possible they keep CQ in addition to that bench I mentioned earlier, and drop one from the pen, going with 7. yeah that's true. but i just don't trust Ramirez and when has Wassermann been any good at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) yeah that's true. but i just don't trust Ramirez and when has Wassermann been any good at all? Ramirez hasn't been bad, but not great either. Wassermann was very good in 2007, lousy in early 2008, and improved to mediocre in late 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:37 AM) What positions can Bourgeois play? With Getz and Crede injured, I'm pretty sure Bourgeois is the only backup the Sox have for 2B, SS and 3B. Not much choice there, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 10:47 AM) With Getz and Crede injured, I'm pretty sure Bourgeois is the only backup the Sox have for 2B, SS and 3B. Not much choice there, as far as I know. Fields can play 3B. With Uribe and Alexei able to play 2B/SS/3B it doesnt mean they have to take Bourgeois. I think the question is do we want Fields' threat of a HR or Bourgeois' small-ball/speed abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 10:49 AM) Fields can play 3B. With Uribe and Alexei able to play 2B/SS/3B it doesnt mean they have to take Bourgeois. I think the question is do we want Fields' threat of a HR or Bourgeois' small-ball/speed abilities. Ah, I forgot about Josh. I still think you go with JB though, for his speed and flexibility on defense. but I could go either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:49 AM) Fields can play 3B. With Uribe and Alexei able to play 2B/SS/3B it doesnt mean they have to take Bourgeois. I think the question is do we want Fields' threat of a HR or Bourgeois' small-ball/speed abilities. Yea, but you really can't get creative with that. If we don't take Bourgeois, we have no backup utility INF. I don't think Ozzie wants Fields starting and I really can't blame him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) With the 4-some of Griffey, Swish, Thome and PK as options to play CF-DH-1B, we will have a power bat on the bench (if Wise is in left or CQ back in there). If CQ out and Swish and Griffey in LF/CF, then we have power bats through-out the line-up capable of hitting a homer. The only one that is unlikely to hit a homer in that situation is Cabrera but you wouldn't pinch hit for him in a tight game any way. I don't think Josh makes the roster as a "power bat off the bench." AJP Kong Alexei Cabrera Uribe Dye Griffey Swish Thome Hall Wise Anderson Bourgeiois Javy MB Floyd Danks Jenks Thornton Linebrink Dotel Carrasco Richard Ramirez MacDougal I think we carry 3 lefties in the pen against the Rays given the number of left-handed hitters in their line-up. We could use Ramirez to face Carlos Pena who's below the Mendoza against LHP. Edited October 1, 2008 by heirdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (heirdog @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 12:30 PM) I think we carry 3 lefties in the pen against the Rays given the number of left-handed hitters in their line-up. We could use Ramirez to face Carlos Pena who's below the Mendoza against LHP. Thing with Ramirez is if we bring him I dont to see him face anyone except Carlos Pena. So its like bringing his arm for just one hitter. I just wouldnt trust him against anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 i think there are 22 locks AJ, Hall, Konerko, Swisher, Alexei, OC, Uribe, Wise, Griffey, Anderson, Dye Javy, Mark, Gavin, Danks Jenks, Thornton, Dotel, Linebrink, Carassco, Richard (versatility makes him a lock, esp. with the lefties in tampa) Clearly we need 1 more IFer....getz is hurt so he's out, Bourgeois doesn't really play third, Fields is hurt too but as far as I know he can still play, so i think he makes the roster In the pen I think Ramirez probably makes it as well as much as I hate the guy and don't want to see him out there, that leaves macdougal vs. Russel vs. Owens for the final spot.....frankly if we even have to use macdougal or russel, we probably aren't going to win anyways, so part of me wants to see owens because he actually has value in a close game as a PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 11:51 AM) Thing with Ramirez is if we bring him I dont to see him face anyone except Carlos Pena. So its like bringing his arm for just one hitter. I just wouldnt trust him against anyone else. and for whatever reason you trust him against Pena. I don't care what that average is against lefties, I don't trust Ramirez against Pena. And for whatever reason, people think Horacio is good against lefties because he throws from the left side. LHB have hit .350 against him and he has a 1.98 WHIP against them. His ERA with the Sox is 7.62 and his WHIP is 2.46. If he's on the roster, it's a damn shame. I'd rather have Boone Logan on the playoff roster. The starters get the lineup for the first 6. Then use Richard to get Pena (and whatever other lefties). Then use Thornton. If one of them has to face a righty to get to 2 lefties, so be it. I'm really not that scared of this Tampa lineup, other than really Longoria and Pena. The Sox lineup is vastly superior. It's the pitching that should be of concern, but all the starters are beatable (though Shields and Kazmir are obviously ridiculously tough). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 12:29 PM) i think there are 22 locks AJ, Hall, Konerko, Swisher, Alexei, OC, Uribe, Wise, Griffey, Anderson, Dye Javy, Mark, Gavin, Danks Jenks, Thornton, Dotel, Linebrink, Carassco, Richard (versatility makes him a lock, esp. with the lefties in tampa) Clearly we need 1 more IFer....getz is hurt so he's out, Bourgeois doesn't really play third, Fields is hurt too but as far as I know he can still play, so i think he makes the roster In the pen I think Ramirez probably makes it as well as much as I hate the guy and don't want to see him out there, that leaves macdougal vs. Russel vs. Owens for the final spot.....frankly if we even have to use macdougal or russel, we probably aren't going to win anyways, so part of me wants to see owens because he actually has value in a close game as a PR I don't think Wise and Anderson are locks - in fact, I'd bet only one of them makes it. Russell has basically not pitched, so I don't see him being likely. MacD, or even Wass, would get it over Russell. You say Fields over Bourgeois because Boourgoeis doesn't play third, but using that logic, Fields doesn't play 2B or SS. JB allows more flexibility. Juan can move over to either, so if flexibility isn't important, then its not a matter of who plays 3rd (where O-Cab or Ramirez can play, BTW) - its which bat, defense and speed you'd rather have around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Wise and Anderson are locks, well at least Anderson is a lock. Every game the Sox are leading past the 7th well see Anderson fielding (unless Griff is hitting in the 8th then might see it him as a pinch runner). The fact that Ozzie keeps starting Wise suggests he will at least be on the team, he may very well be starting the first game. Edited October 1, 2008 by Soxbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 What exactly are the playoff roster rules? I thought you had to be on the roster before Sept 1, but their is some loophole is someone is on the DL. I also heard somewhere that you had to be on the 40 man roster sept 1 to be eligible for the playoffs. Anyone know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock4Life Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Players must be on a team's 25-man roster as of August 31 to be eligible for post-season play. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team's 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position. Thats from wiki so take it for what its worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock4Life Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 but in reading other sites, the quote rule changes where as long as someone is on your 40 man on august 31, you can put them on the playoff roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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