Friend of Nordhagen Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Rays go on the ropes, and Javy pulls them off. He has a track record of breaking White Sox momentum over the years. I swear he did it continually in 2006. This year, down the stretch, he undid the team's good work in KC by giving the Twins the game, the momentum and the confidence in the first game of that series. Who knows how this one would've ended up, but I'm pretty sure the Rays felt a lot better about themselves after they took the lead back in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 ha, cabrera loses all respect in my eyes for his pussy sequence with Ballfour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) Rays go on the ropes, and Javy pulls them off. He has a track record of breaking White Sox momentum over the years. I swear he did it continually in 2006. This year, down the stretch, he undid the team's good work in KC by giving the Twins the game, the momentum and the confidence in the first game of that series. Who knows how this one would've ended up, but I'm pretty sure the Rays felt a lot better about themselves after they took the lead back in this game. They also felt better after OC made a complete arse of himself in the 7th with the bases loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 f*** Javier Vazquez, and Ozzie Guillen, total dumb s***s. I'm furious right now, we could've won that f***ing game as surprising as it may be, the neutralizer was Javier Vazquez starting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Dear, Javy, May this be the last time you EVER take the mound for the Chicago White Sox you gutless, spineless, balless, no heart, no nut, overrated, overpaid, timid, scared, pathetic piece of human toxic waste, pond scum, rat s*** motherf***er. You probably smell too. I know I just made no sense just now. But you guys get the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (RME JICO @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) They also felt better after OC made a complete arse of himself in the 7th with the bases loaded. I listened to it over the web and didn't see the specifics. What set OC off? QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) f*** Javier Vazquez, and Ozzie Guillen, total dumb s***s. I'm furious right now, we could've won that f***ing game as surprising as it may be, the neutralizer was Javier Vazquez starting With a number of starters already having pitched on short rest recently, Ozzie pretty much had to use Javy today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 04:42 PM) ha, cabrera loses all respect in my eyes for his pussy sequence with Ballfour Looked to me like he was sticking up for Uribe who Balfour showed up in his at bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) They replayed the OC sequence after game on TBS. Balfour actually started it. He said something to Uribe after striking him out. Edited October 2, 2008 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 what the hell was the cabrera thing about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I don't want Javy on this team after this season, and considering how Marte was traded, I guarantee you Vazquez is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I don't really care that they lost, as much as I care that we had to lose with him on the mound. I don't blame Guillen but it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (SnB @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 03:47 PM) what the hell was the cabrera thing about? Grant Balfour talked s*** after striking out Juan Uribe. OC called himself sticking up for his teammates, but he ended up looking like an ass. After he kicked dirt and yelled at Balfour, he promptly strikes out. Edited October 2, 2008 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Balfour has no movement on his fastball and it tops out at 95 i think why is he unhittable again? he's throwing darts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 03:47 PM) Looked to me like he was sticking up for Uribe who Balfour showed up in his at bat. He should have stuck up for Uribe by actually getting a hit. Why give Balfour any extra motivation? Cabrera just embarrassed himself by kicking dirt and then striking out. Terrible. Edited October 2, 2008 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock4Life Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I hate OC. and we could have pitched Clayton Richard. Holy f***, the Hawkeroo was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 02:49 PM) I don't want Javy on this team after this season, and considering how Marte was traded, I guarantee you Vazquez is gone. I disagree. Contreras is never healthy, meaning that the Sox would have massive holes in the #4 and #5 spots. Richard *might* be able to step up in one of those next season, but that still leaves one open. Vazquez is a pretty good #4 and an excellent #5 starter. A guy like that is useful in *getting* to the postseason. The key here is to use him out of the bullpen if the Sox make the post-season again next year. Edited October 2, 2008 by WCSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 01:47 PM) Looked to me like he was sticking up for Uribe who Balfour showed up in his at bat. ding ding - i had no problem with it. balfour was showing up the sox. payback looming.... how awesome it is that pk owns wheeler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (Shamrock4Life @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) I hate OC. and we could have pitched Clayton Richard. Holy f***, the Hawkeroo was right. hindsight is 20/20...in all honesty we couldnt pitch clayton...you just can't ...he's had plenty of horrendous outings this year, and im shocked the Rays didnt bunt on him at all...with his inability to throw t o first i thoguht crawford, upton, aki and even more should have been bunting on him....that said, kid pitched great and gave us a chance to get back in it while javy was crapping away anotehr lead....frustrating...i think now though if we should be lucky enough to get that far...theres no way javy starts again this postseason. javy might make a good reliever....he seems to always pitch well for an inning or two and i would bet he'd pick up a mph or two on his fastball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Javy is not a number 1. Hes not a number 2. Hes not even really a number 3. He is at best a number 4, but generally a 5. Some one who will some times be dazzling, other times be mind boggling. He has to pitch in situations where the wheels are not going to fall off, and if they do fall off it has to be in games that are generally not going to be make or break. I suspect Javy will be back next year at the end of the rotation, he is good at eating up innings and keeping the game at least manageable. 6-4 loss when the Sox had the bases loaded and 1 out. Just even a single and its a tie game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (Shamrock4Life @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) and we could have pitched Clayton Richard. Holy f***, the Hawkeroo was right. Hindsight's a b****, ain't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 04:59 PM) ding ding - i had no problem with it. balfour was showing up the sox. payback looming.... how awesome it is that pk owns wheeler he was 1-6 with a single, BB and 2 Ks before tonight...thats hardly owning a guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (Ron @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 05:50 PM) Grant Balfour talked s*** after striking out Juan Uribe. OC called himself sticking up for his teammates, but he ended up looking like an ass. After he kicked dirt and yelled at Balfour, he promptly strikes out. it was a bulls*** strike out. the called strike (strike 2) was a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Javy would be an ace in the national league though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Actually you might be able to sell a national league team on Vaz. Just say things like: "Look he gives up 1 or 2 big innings in the AL, if hes in the NL the pitcher spot is going to come up some of those times and Javy would most likely not get hurt as bad." Even in this game it was the 9th batter Bartlett that started off the 3 run inning with a weak grounder to 3rd. If thats the pitcher Javy gives up no runs that inning... NL is an entirely different game and a place where Javy has much better chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 04:57 PM) I disagree. Contreras is never healthy, meaning that the Sox would have massive holes in the #4 and #5 spots. Richard *might* be able to step up in one of those next season, but that still leaves one open. Vazquez is a pretty good #4 and an excellent #5 starter. A guy like that is useful in *getting* to the postseason. The key here is to use him out of the bullpen if the Sox make the post-season again next year. Bring Back Jon Garland. At least he knows how to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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