caulfield12 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) Fire away! I'm not really even upset, I haven't been able to get tense like the 3rd game in Minnesota or the one game playoff against the Twins. I think our Sox just left everything in Chicago, and any momentum we had was squandered by Vazquez. All things considered, we're just not as good as the other three playoff teams, who have better starting pitching (at least none of them would have to start Vazquez), speed, fundamentals and especially the middle relievers. Pitching and defense in the playoffs >>> Softball approach Edited October 4, 2008 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 The Rays are just a better team than we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Well our offense looks good when its 85 and the wind blows out from June to August. Maybe we can petition the league to start the playoffs in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) This wasn't the bullpen's fault. Buehrle should have never started the 8th inning. By brining in Dotel with Crawford on 1B, you were basically letting him walk into scoring position with no outs. Name me one person who had a good game? I can't think of anyone besides Dye. Oh well, hopefully they give us a thrill at home. Edited October 4, 2008 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 how about a positive thread for a change? It's do or die. Let's win 3 straight. 2 Blackouts + 1 Buehrle road victory = ALCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (rangercal @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 08:19 PM) how about a positive thread for a change? It's do or die. Let's win 3 straight. 2 Blackouts + 1 Buehrle road victory = ALCS. are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:19 PM) are you kidding me? no. I had more doubt last week than I do today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I love the White Sox but I dont love this team. CQ, danks and Floyd made me like it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (That funky motion @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 02:21 AM) I love the White Sox but I dont love this team. CQ, danks and Floyd made me like it a lot. I love them for the memories they gave me on Tuesday. 10 years from now, we'll remember the tiebreaker and barely remember what happened in the ALDS (if we lose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (That funky motion @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:21 PM) I love the White Sox but I dont love this team. CQ, danks and Floyd made me like it a lot. i like: Buehrle CQ Danks Floyd Lexi Swisher (i actually do. oddly enough) But otherwise... blow this team up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 The White Sox obviously match up better with the Rays in Chicago. But it's no mistake that we're 4-18 now in dome games and turf. Our team is not constructed in a way to win those games. The players who would fare just as well on artificial turf as grass are probably Ramirez and maybe Cabrera. Brian Anderson, once again, showed me pretty much nothing and he's never going to be the starting CFer for the Chicago White Sox...maybe Couch will write that tonight, but I doubt it needs to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 01:24 AM) i like: Buehrle CQ Danks Floyd Lexi Swisher (i actually do. oddly enough) But otherwise... blow this team up. I love Matt Thornton, Jermaine Dye, and Konerko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 08:23 PM) I love them for the memories they gave me on Tuesday. 10 years from now, we'll remember the tiebreaker and barely remember what happened in the ALDS (if we lose). Hell, a week from now we'll probably be pretty darn content with how the season went. But personally, and I hate to say it, I blame Quentin's stupidity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 09:24 PM) i like: Buehrle CQ Danks Floyd Lexi Swisher (i actually do. oddly enough) But otherwise... blow this team up. I don't know what you would replace AJ. Yeah, we are a station to station team, but no catcher will make a difference there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 I love Thornton, as long as he doesn't come in with runners on base or have to pitch more than an inning or so. He's been solid this year, with a few blips on the radar screen, but very good. Unfortunately, we're spending so much money on Linebrink, Dotel and MacDougal...because our minor league system couldn't produce anything better than Wasserman and Russell. However, this season is a far cry from Jerry Owens, Josh Fields and Andy Gonzalez, thank God. Things were so bleak last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Oct 4, 2008 -> 02:29 AM) Hell, a week from now we'll probably be pretty darn content with how the season went. I'll be honest....the Sox making the playoffs and the Cubs not winning the World Series = successful baseball season It's not that way every year, but with the way things were supposed to go, if the Cubs don't win the WS, I'll have fond memories of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 08:29 PM) Hell, a week from now we'll probably be pretty darn content with how the season went. But personally, and I hate to say it, I blame Quentin's stupidity... Even with Quentin, we never matched up very well with the Rays. I also think Uribe is showing us why a healthy Crede is so dearly missed at this time of year. Finally, we don't have that one dominating presence in Contreras, where you just felt every start from August of 05 through May/June of 06 that it was inevitable the White Sox would somehow win. The Cubs and Angels are showing that no matter how well you do in the regular season, you can get knocked out so quickly you can't even comprehend what just hit you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I guess this is the loss post mortum. That is a nice baseball team that beat the White Sox tonight. The Rays just do their jobs and hang in there until you beat yourself. That's all that happened tonight. I saw the Rays on Elvis night, nobody knew who half of those guys were --- Gross? Iwamara? Aybar? but they executed on the field and at the plate and took a game from a team with many more illustrious names. And that's exactly how our '05 White Sox won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Does anyone think the starts on short rest are catching up with Buerhle now? I know Mark wouldn't use that as an excuse, but his pitches just weren't quite as crisp as I've seen before...his fastball averaged 84-87, usually, he's a tick faster. I just hope we can get starts for both Danks and Floyd in the post-season, it's going to be a great experience for both of them moving forward I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Guillen's comments on stranding runners "That's White Sox baseball." "They have clutch hitters, we dont." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of Nordhagen Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (TLAK @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 07:35 PM) I guess this is the loss post mortum. That is a nice baseball team that beat the White Sox tonight. The Rays just do their jobs and hang in there until you beat yourself. That's all that happened tonight. I saw the Rays on Elvis night, nobody knew who half of those guys were --- Gross? Iwamara? Aybar? but they executed on the field and at the plate and took a game from a team with many more illustrious names. And that's exactly how our '05 White Sox won. The Rays are a good team this year and have the kind of starting pitching and some young position talent that will make them competitive beyond this year. But I also wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, next year, their bullpen is completely awful and the no-name guys who are getting it done in their lineup this year totally suck. That would make them a pretty mediocre team. Unfortunately, that's not the team we're playing right now. They're better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 In the 1st inning we should have produced more than 2 runs, ballgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I'd really like to know how many times this team has scored more than one run in the 1st inning (and probably should have put up 5 tonight)...and then lay and not score s*** the rest of the game? Or at least only score in 1 inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 08:39 PM) The Rays are a good team this year and have the kind of starting pitching and some young position talent that will make them competitive beyond this year. But I also wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, next year, their bullpen is completely awful and the no-name guys who are getting it done in their lineup this year totally suck. That would make them a pretty mediocre team. Unfortunately, that's not the team we're playing right now. They're better. I've never understood how they were that good the entire year. You win that many games though...you're doing something right I guess. But I agree. They're 3rd place next year. And guys like Imawatanable or whatever the hell his name is fall off the map.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 08:41 PM) I'd really like to know how many times this team has scored more than one run in the 1st inning (and probably should have put up 5 tonight)...and then lay and not score s*** the rest of the game? Or at least only score in 1 inning. I'd like to see a breakdown by thirds. Innings 1-3, 3-6 and 6-9. I bet innings 3-6 are just brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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