Jump to content

John Danks


Soxfest

Recommended Posts

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Oct 5, 2008 -> 08:13 PM)
Watch his face as he walks off the field, you can tell he is loving the crowd and the situation.

 

He has more than earned a spot in Chicagos heart. You can tell it is reciprocated as well, after the clinching game when he got his champagne shower he looked like a little kid who got the best present on Christmas.

 

He is such a gamer, I love watching him pitch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 5, 2008 -> 07:41 PM)
Danks didn't do anything that Buehrle didn't do. He just got run support and a decent bullpen.

 

I don't think anyone is arguing that. Such a performance is expected from the veteran leader of the staff. To get back to back performances like this out of the young Danks is impressive and less expected.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Oct 5, 2008 -> 07:57 PM)
That trade when we got him sucked!!!11

 

I loved McCarthy!!

 

wow.. this trade looks just as good as the Freddy Garcia trade that brought Floyd over. Kenny has done a good job with our starting pitching.

 

I've liked Danks since I saw him pitch in-person last year, I sa w him on the bump 4 times this year as well, and I couldn't be happier with him on this team. I hope he sticks around for a long time and anchors the rotation with Mark and Gavin.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 5, 2008 -> 08:41 PM)
Danks didn't do anything that Buehrle didn't do. He just got run support and a decent bullpen.

And if Buehrle were a 23 year old with only 2 year experience under his belt pitching in his first playoffs then yeah, he'd get a pat on the back too. Unfortunately for Mark he's an 8 year veteran making $14M a year with World Series experience, he's expected to go out there and shutdown the opponent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 5, 2008 -> 11:06 PM)
Reynolds was sucking his cock about how good Danks looked out there, but I really didn't think his stuff and location were working that well for him, he just straight up pitched one hell of a ball game. He is undoubtedly the ace of this staff.

It's nice that people would want to argue about who the ace of our staff is. :wub:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Couch in the Sun-Times article tonight said the same thing, about Danks morphing into a star over these last 13 days.

 

We'll see if Gavin has some of the same pixie dust in his arsenal.

 

Officially, Buehrle, because of his WS/playoff wins, veteran/team spokesman status and contract, will be the ace of the staff...but Danks is close, if he hasn't already surpassed Mark. I guess it doesn't matter who's your "official" ace, as Contreras moved in and out of that role in 05/06 and Mark never changed a bit or complained. Everyone could see he was the best pitcher in baseball at that time and deserved to start each playoff series.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 09:20 AM)
I don't see how people can ever b**** about the Vazquez trade (which I still feel we won), when you see what Danks has done compared to B-Mac...

 

I don't see how anyone would complain about the KW extension. Why was there even a thread started on that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just because the McCarthy for Danks/Griffey trade looks very good now, it doesn't mean that will always be the case. You need to give a trade at least 3-5 years. Obviously, the Sox have the huge upper hand now. That could all change if Danks goes down with a Jim Parque/Jon Rauch injury and McCarthy wins 15 games a season from 09-13. I doubt that will happen, but be aware of premature evaluation.

 

As far KW "good" moves not giving us a right to criticize bad/questionable moves, that doesn't make sense to me...it's kind of like the current political season, McCain was "right" about the surge but potentially wrong about all other decision, just because McCain (or Obama) were right once (the speech to oppose the war) doesn't mean you can't question any of their other decisions.

 

I suppose it will take another season or two for us to judge the merits of the Vazquez move. Both teams got to the playoffs. The D-Backs will have Young's services for another five years. A lot depends on how Javier bounces back...or what KW gets in return for trade...or what KW does with that $11.5 million he would have made to improve the pitching? Can we find a legit starting CFer? Well, we haven't had a regular there now for three years that we could rely on 100%. Actually, losing the reliable Luis Vizcaino was a bigger blow than some realized, as he was the last guy out of the pen on the 05 staff...but would have been 3rd or 4th the last couple of seasons.

 

In hindsight, we could have kept Chris Young (for better or worse, at least he would be cost-controlled, we can't pay every starter $8-14 million) and invested that money in a FA and done possibly just as good a job. The whole point of trading Rowand was to free up the spot for a "cheaper and better" player in Anderson to inherit the role, and it just didn't work. Luckily we have Ramirez and Quentin now, but ideally a well-run organization would have 4-5 position players come up through their own system because they are guaranteed cheaper options for six seasons, or at least comparatively cheap to going out and buying talent all the time on the open market.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 07:40 AM)
Just because the McCarthy for Danks/Griffey trade looks very good now, it doesn't mean that will always be the case. You need to give a trade at least 3-5 years. Obviously, the Sox have the huge upper hand now. That could all change if Danks goes down with a Jim Parque/Jon Rauch injury and McCarthy wins 15 games a season from 09-13. I doubt that will happen, but be aware of premature evaluation.

 

As far KW "good" moves not giving us a right to criticize bad/questionable moves, that doesn't make sense to me...it's kind of like the current political season, McCain was "right" about the surge but potentially wrong about all other decision, just because McCain (or Obama) were right once (the speech to oppose the war) doesn't mean you can't question any of their other decisions.

 

I suppose it will take another season or two for us to judge the merits of the Vazquez move. Both teams got to the playoffs. The D-Backs will have Young's services for another five years. A lot depends on how Javier bounces back...or what KW gets in return for trade...or what KW does with that $11.5 million he would have made to improve the pitching? Can we find a legit starting CFer? Well, we haven't had a regular there now for three years that we could rely on 100%. Actually, losing the reliable Luis Vizcaino was a bigger blow than some realized, as he was the last guy out of the pen on the 05 staff...but would have been 3rd or 4th the last couple of seasons.

 

In hindsight, we could have kept Chris Young (for better or worse, at least he would be cost-controlled, we can't pay every starter $8-14 million) and invested that money in a FA and done possibly just as good a job. The whole point of trading Rowand was to free up the spot for a "cheaper and better" player in Anderson to inherit the role, and it just didn't work. Luckily we have Ramirez and Quentin now, but ideally a well-run organization would have 4-5 position players come up through their own system because they are guaranteed cheaper options for six seasons, or at least comparatively cheap to going out and buying talent all the time on the open market.

 

Not to get completely off track, but I believe there is a less looked at aspect of trades, and that is the set-up trade. The one that shows that you aren't going to be taken by the other GM.

 

For instance, the Vazquez trade, to me, set up the Quentin-Carter trade. What I mean is, you are always trying to get the best talent you can out of a trade, but if a GM doesn't feel like they other GM is trying to take the house, the lot, the car and your children (I'm looking at you Chuck LaMar), then it sets up the next trade where you might just fleece a guy. There are two sides to each trade, too, short-term and long-term. There are just too many aspects of a trade to just disqualify one because it hasn't been 3-5 years.

 

Anyway, Danks showed some major cojones the last week...gotta love him. Hopefully his brother will do the same as he comes through the system.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 6, 2008 -> 07:46 AM)
Not to get completely off track, but I believe there is a less looked at aspect of trades, and that is the set-up trade. The one that shows that you aren't going to be taken by the other GM.

 

For instance, the Vazquez trade, to me, set up the Quentin-Carter trade. What I mean is, you are always trying to get the best talent you can out of a trade, but if a GM doesn't feel like they other GM is trying to take the house, the lot, the car and your children (I'm looking at you Chuck LaMar), then it sets up the next trade where you might just fleece a guy. There are two sides to each trade, too, short-term and long-term. There are just too many aspects of a trade to just disqualify one because it hasn't been 3-5 years.

 

Anyway, Danks showed some major cojones the last week...gotta love him. Hopefully his brother will do the same as he comes through the system.

 

Then there's the reverse "set up" trade, which we have going with the Mariners organization.

 

Thornton for Borchard, sounds great! Two former first rounders nobody can fix.

Garcia for Olivo, Morse and Reed! Wow. Three for the price of one. Sounds like those amazing trades Cubs fans come up with at hot stove time and call into sports radio with. Of course, none of those guys did much of anything in SEA.

 

So KW calls on the cell from the owner's box and says, I'll give you Swisher, Fields, Getz and Poreda for Ichiro...I don't think the M's would consider it, lol. They would be too scared.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...