whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 08:09 PM) Either way this team has made some gigantic strides since last year. It would be hard for them not to. Legion is obviously going to help, but I think this is just an NIT team. Still a definite improvement over last year, although the real fun starts next year and the year after when the calvary arrive and guys like McCamey, Davis, Legion, and Tisdale will be upperclassmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 10:24 PM) Destroy? Without a post presence Duke will destroy nothing but 2nd rate teams. So the final score showed destruction, but SIU hung with them for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 On another note the Pac Ten looks to find a way to be worse at basketball than they are at football. USC falls to Seton Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Texas Tech beat East Central 167-115. That was fun and miserable at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Real nice win for Illinois tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bones Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Real nice win for Illinois tonight That is a game that they would lose last year without a doubt. I think they were perfect from the free throw line which was the difference in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Real nice win for Illinois tonight For sure, a close road win against a decent team like that is a good early season remedy to try and forget last season ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Texas Tech went for 167 points tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Real nice win for Illinois tonight It would really be awesome if they could find a way into the Tourney this year. I think this was probably the toughest out of conference game on the schedule, so maybe can go into conference play undefeated. Also between McCamey, Davis, Tisdale, and Legion the illini got a pretty decent group of what will be upper classmen to mix with the upcoming good recruiting classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Illinois free throws tonight: 11/11 :o :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 08:21 PM) So the final score showed destruction, but SIU hung with them for the most part. you havent been right about many things, but you were right about the destruction part. The Dawgs were just overmatched by a much more experienced group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 09:07 PM) It would really be awesome if they could find a way into the Tourney this year. I think this was probably the toughest out of conference game on the schedule, so maybe can go into conference play undefeated. Also between McCamey, Davis, Tisdale, and Legion the illini got a pretty decent group of what will be upper classmen to mix with the upcoming good recruiting classes. If this group is good enough to make the tourney, they are going to be even better next year and the year after than I think. And I have the 2010-2011 team as a MINIMUM sweet 16 squad, and certainly possible they will be better than that. Edited November 21, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 UCLA struggling against the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:04 PM) UCLA struggling against the zone. Obviously comparing the talent level and competition of UCLA and SIU is apples and oranges (although SIU had a much tougher opponent tonight), but watching both of them feels similar for me at times in the sense that it feels like they are designed to play defense only, not so much score points. I know that isn't how it is, but it feels that way. Edited November 21, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:11 PM) Obviously comparing the talent level and competition of UCLA and SIU is apples and oranges (although SIU had a much tougher opponent tonight), but watching both of them feels similar for me at times in the sense that it feels like they are designed to play defense only, not so much score points. I know that isn't how it is, but it feels that way. I'll NEVER understand Ben Howland. He recruits bluechip after bluechip, and then muddles up each game and gives much worse teams the chance to stay in the game with UCLA each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:13 PM) I'll NEVER understand Ben Howland. He recruits bluechip after bluechip, and then muddles up each game and gives much worse teams the chance to stay in the game with UCLA each time. Agreed, and I think considering SIU's talent level in relationship to their league, they do the same thing in a lot of Valley games. UCLA vs. SIU will be quite the taffy pull. Wow, Michigan defeats UCLA 55-52, HUGE win for them. Between this results, Illinois winning at Vandy, and Seton Hall beating USC, it was a good night for the Big 10 and a bad one for the Pac-10. Edited November 21, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Duke vs Michigan will be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I guess I should also point out that Howland's resume, and three straight finals fours in counting, is hard to argue with. But playing that style and keeping inferior opponents close seems like such a waste to me with their talent. I don't get how he gets so many blue chip players knowing they will play that style, but to each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Big Ten is 27-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 11:46 PM) Big Ten is 27-0. Sorry, we're gonna screw that up for you. IU's playing in Maui next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:11 PM) Obviously comparing the talent level and competition of UCLA and SIU is apples and oranges (although SIU had a much tougher opponent tonight), but watching both of them feels similar for me at times in the sense that it feels like they are designed to play defense only, not so much score points. I know that isn't how it is, but it feels that way. SIU has been scoring a lot of points in the first two games of the year. Unusual compared to the last couple of years. Not sure if it was the bigger floor, nerves, or what, but they couldn't knock down a shot to save their lives. This southern team will put up points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 08:19 AM) SIU has been scoring a lot of points in the first two games of the year. Unusual compared to the last couple of years. Not sure if it was the bigger floor, nerves, or what, but they couldn't knock down a shot to save their lives. This southern team will put up points. They got into foul trouble early and Duke took complete advantage of it. The foul disparity was huge, and I am in no way blaming the refs, the Dukies kept coming at the Salukies because the Salukis were out of position a lot. Nick Evans was fun to watch until he got into foul trouble, but Tony Boyle was just brutal. I dont know what happened with Booker, he seemed to be doing well but then he went down after a play and never came back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 08:56 PM) Texas Tech beat East Central 167-115. That was fun and miserable at the same time. I think our two teams are gonna duke it out for mediocrity this year. We've got some guys that can pour it in, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 10:03 PM) For sure, a close road win against a decent team like that is a good early season remedy to try and forget last season ever happened. absolutely....especially give our home court advantage due to the acoustics and layout of the court....we dont lose at home very often...i would guess only about 5 times in the last 3 years...that said if we were to lose to anyone, im glad its illinois as the illini were my fav team before i went to college and are the team i still root for outside of vandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuiceCruz16 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 08:19 AM) SIU has been scoring a lot of points in the first two games of the year. Unusual compared to the last couple of years. Not sure if it was the bigger floor, nerves, or what, but they couldn't knock down a shot to save their lives. This southern team will put up points. Well, as always I was rooting for whoever was playing Duke, but that game was difficult to watch. The SIU comparision to UCLA is a good one for me. I respect their teams, but it is ugly to watch them play if you are not a fan of that particular team. I would still rather see UCLA butt heads with the Dookies tonight, rather then Michigan though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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