Democratic hate and anger

[EvilMonkey]

What do those posts have to do with Obama? Yeah, some of his supporters are nutsy and think he's crazy. But all of them? No. Not at all.

 

Ah f*** it. This thread has no room for rational thought and discussion. It's a place for broad generalizations or fringe crazies.

They have not much to do with Obama, but with many of his rabid supporters. i was told that the right is filled with hate, and when I pointed out that it was the left that is fond os shtting down speech and actions they don't like, like threatening radio stations, shouting down speakers they disagree with and violence against others, it was just dismissed as not true. I am pointing out that it is true. While both sides have their rabid psycho fans, the left has more than their fair share of them, and they are way more violent and destructive, as I am pointing out. McCain and Obama are both running dirty campaigns. I don't think you can be a politician nowadays and not do it. But is is not one sided, as some of those on theleft would have us believe. And with the voraciousness of many of his supporters, Obama himself can just sit back and let his minions do a lot of the dirty work for him. Did you know that there was a website out there with a 'kill Sarah Palin' flash game? It got taken down after 2 days, but can you imagin if there was one for Obama? Hate is truely bi-partisan.

[mr_genius]

They have not much to do with Obama, but with many of his rabid supporters. i was told that the right is filled with hate, and when I pointed out that it was the left that is fond os shtting down speech and actions they don't like, like threatening radio stations, shouting down speakers they disagree with and violence against others, it was just dismissed as not true. I am pointing out that it is true. While both sides have their rabid psycho fans, the left has more than their fair share of them, and they are way more violent and destructive, as I am pointing out. McCain and Obama are both running dirty campaigns. I don't think you can be a politician nowadays and not do it. But is is not one sided, as some of those on theleft would have us believe. And with the voraciousness of many of his supporters, Obama himself can just sit back and let his minions do a lot of the dirty work for him. Did you know that there was a website out there with a 'kill Sarah Palin' flash game? It got taken down after 2 days, but can you imagin if there was one for Obama? Hate is truely bi-partisan.

 

The Obama campaign directly sent out orders to his followers instructing them to silence some of Obama's harshest critics. The campaign also threatened to revoke FCC licenses.

[Soxy]

They have not much to do with Obama, but with many of his rabid supporters. i was told that the right is filled with hate, and when I pointed out that it was the left that is fond os shtting down speech and actions they don't like, like threatening radio stations, shouting down speakers they disagree with and violence against others, it was just dismissed as not true. I am pointing out that it is true. While both sides have their rabid psycho fans, the left has more than their fair share of them, and they are way more violent and destructive, as I am pointing out. McCain and Obama are both running dirty campaigns. I don't think you can be a politician nowadays and not do it. But is is not one sided, as some of those on theleft would have us believe. And with the voraciousness of many of his supporters, Obama himself can just sit back and let his minions do a lot of the dirty work for him. Did you know that there was a website out there with a 'kill Sarah Palin' flash game? It got taken down after 2 days, but can you imagin if there was one for Obama? Hate is truely bi-partisan.

Right, awesome. But is that what you want to contribute to this discussion? Do you want to be the RSS feed for anger and hatred? Really?

 

Of course there are nustos. Of course there are. Are they more crazy than their right counterparts. Probably not. But by focusing on them we are unable to have a meaningful discussion here. We are just perpetuating the crazies. We are giving them a voice. We are giving them the attention they want so badly. Forget them.

 

I can't imagine that anyone here truly believes the right has a monopoly on anger problems. But this thread is so petty. So petty. Don't give more voice to the hate mongers. You are so much better than that. Ignore the people that drag political discourse through the mud. They are exactly what is wrong with this country. They are the ones that make negative ads so effective. They are the ones that make civil political discourse so infrequent in this country.

 

Why give more voice to the people who really have nothing to say? They don't deserve it.

[EvilMonkey]

Right, awesome. But is that what you want to contribute to this discussion? Do you want to be the RSS feed for anger and hatred? Really?

 

Of course there are nustos. Of course there are. Are they more crazy than their right counterparts. Probably not. But by focusing on them we are unable to have a meaningful discussion here. We are just perpetuating the crazies. We are giving them a voice. We are giving them the attention they want so badly. Forget them.

 

I can't imagine that anyone here truly believes the right has a monopoly on anger problems. But this thread is so petty. So petty. Don't give more voice to the hate mongers. You are so much better than that. Ignore the people that drag political discourse through the mud. They are exactly what is wrong with this country. They are the ones that make negative ads so effective. They are the ones that make civil political discourse so infrequent in this country.

 

Why give more voice to the people who really have nothing to say? They don't deserve it.

For a little while longer, yes I do. I am tired of hearing it. I am not a big lover of John McCain (nor of Bush, for that matter). But the constant beating just makes me feel like I have to defend them. In there, Obama s***s creme brule and Mccain kills baby seals. So yeah, for at least a little while I am going to be petty. I may be better than that normally, but not right now. And should Obama win, as I mentioned elsewhere, I will give him just as much chance as Bush got from the left.

[BigSqwert]

Another example of despicable behavior by a Democrat.

 

[EvilMonkey]

Another example of despicable behavior by a Democrat.

 

The sad part is that if you removed the ONN from that and put CNN on it instead, it would be entirely believable. "By any means necessary" I have heard come from the left many times.

[Texsox]

I'm officially dubbing this the "Alpha Dog needs to vent" thread.

 

I'm dubbing this the Alpha Dog became Athomeboy thread and enjoying the irony of you finding fault.

[BigSqwert]

The sad part is that if you removed the ONN from that and put CNN on it instead, it would be entirely believable. "By any means necessary" I have heard come from the left many times.

 

You seriously think that? Come on now.

 

[HuskyCaucasian]

I'm dubbing this the Alpha Dog became Athomeboy thread and enjoying the irony of you finding fault.

Interestingly he's gone FAR beyond anything I've done and I've toned it down in the last month.

[EvilMonkey]

Interestingly he's gone FAR beyond anything I've done and I've toned it down in the last month.

What have I done besides post the hate and vitriol that comes from the supporters of Obama? Other than telling Reddy to bite my ass. I am not theone stealing campaign signs. I am not the one hitting women across the face with protest signs. i didn't create a kill obama web page game. i didn't break into any campaign offices. devoted followers of The One have done these things.

[BigSqwert]

Tires slashed during Obama rally.

[EvilMonkey]

You seriously think that? Come on now.

Let's see. I posted earlier in here about a little girl who is being called a racist in her school because she wore a palin shirt. But hey, any means necessary, as it said in that piece. When people were making s*** up about Bush's national guard service, and it came out false, it didn't matter, they claimed the 'narrative was true, even if the specific fact was false'. But hey, anything is possible. Obama knew that the Secret Service had investigated the claims of 'kill him' and 'terrorist' at a Palin ralley, yet he mentioned it at the end of the last debate, where he knew 60 million people would hear it. He repeated somethign he knew to be untrue, but hey, any means necessary. "You canmake a lie sound like the truth if you say it over and over again" This one isn't limited to Obama and his camp, but they sure engage in it like pros. But hey, whatever means necessary. And once again, someone on Barack's side (Biden) brings race into it. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/20...-voters-ha.html

"Undecided people are having a difficult time just culturally making the change, making the move for the first African American president in the history of the United States of America," the Democratic vice-presidential nominee said at a San Francisco fundraiser Saturday evening.

So undecided people are undecided because they just can't bring themselves to vote for a black man. But hey, whatever means necessary. Just keep on repeating that lie long enough and it will sound like truth. So, yes, I seriously think that if this had a CNN logo on it, it would be believable.

[EvilMonkey]

Tires slashed during Obama rally.

You have your own hate thread, go back to it. And I'll up you one. McCain campaign bus shot at.

http://www.sacunion.com/mark/?p=67

EXCLUSIVE: .22 Gunshot, paint balls fired at McCain / Palin Straight Talk Express

October 19th, 2008

(Sunday, October 19 - Filed by Mark Williams in Raton, New Mexico with the Stop Obama Tour) We learned at this morning’s Stop Obama Rally here that the McCain/Palin Straight Talk Express came through town yesterday. It arrived with a window shattered by a .22 caliber weapon. It had also been hit by an unknown number of paint balls from a paint ball gun or guns. There were reportedly no injuries and neither candidate was on board.

 

One local man who saw the damage and spoke with the McCain/Palin staffers said the attack(s) had occured in southern New Mexico that same day. The Express is traveling the country independent of the candidates, handing out campaign materials.

 

Sarah Palin is stumping in of all places Roswell, New Mexico today and then roughly back the way we came with an event at the Henderson, Nevada Pavilion tomorrow and a stop in Elko, Nevada.

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[Rex Kickass]

What have I done besides post the hate and vitriol that comes from the supporters of Obama? Other than telling Reddy to bite my ass. I am not theone stealing campaign signs. I am not the one hitting women across the face with protest signs. i didn't create a kill obama web page game. i didn't break into any campaign offices. devoted followers of The One have done these things.

 

You also didn't attack an Obama canvasser going door to door in Wisconsin this weekend, or steal Obama lawn signs, or spray paint some lady in Michigan's back windshield black to cover up her Obama sign. For every story of thuggery on one side, there's an equal story of thuggery on the other side. It generally happens in all campaigns, American and otherwise - and by and large is never condoned or accepted or even something that the candidates are aware of.

 

For every ACORN, there's a Young Political Majors. For every intentional extra fraudulent vote, there's an intentionally suppressed legal vote. By and large, with the exceptions of 1960 and 2000, these things don't have an effect on the Presidential campaign in modern history. It's a fringe aspect, and frankly not worth the kind of scrutiny that so many of us place on it. Because the level of scrutiny we give it, only adds to the power that these assholes are trying to get over Joe Voter and don't deserve. Punish them, humiliate them, throw them in jail but don't let them dominate the election discussion.

[Texsox]

Interestingly he's gone FAR beyond anything I've done and I've toned it down in the last month.

Then I do apologize, you chased me out of these discussions weeks ago and I hardly ever read a thread in the 'buster.

[southsider2k5]

Then I do apologize, you chased me out of these discussions weeks ago and I hardly ever read a thread in the 'buster.

 

^^^

 

To me this sounded exactly like what I have seen you posting since the primaries. I haven't paid as much attention lately because it had been so bad, but hopefully that is true.

[EvilMonkey]

You also didn't attack an Obama canvasser going door to door in Wisconsin this weekend, or steal Obama lawn signs, or spray paint some lady in Michigan's back windshield black to cover up her Obama sign. For every story of thuggery on one side, there's an equal story of thuggery on the other side. It generally happens in all campaigns, American and otherwise - and by and large is never condoned or accepted or even something that the candidates are aware of.

I never said it didn't happen both ways. remember, i am responding to a post that insisted that the right was filled with hate, because you know, that's all we hear about is the recist republicans who hate Obama because he is black. Political sign damage has happened since they were first invented. The level of violence and anger coming from the left, especially in this election, is largely ignoreds by the media and the left itself. Most of the people responding in this forum are a great deal more politically aware than the general public, so yeah, people here know about it, but the averageperson on your block probably doesn't.

 

For every ACORN, there's a Young Political Majors. For every intentional extra fraudulent vote, there's an intentionally suppressed legal vote.

Oh please. That's like saying for every Arod there is a Juan uribe. Those two aren't even on the same planet. It would take about 50 YPM to make up ACORN in just one state. Note, I am not condoning the stuff that YPm may have done, since they haven't been found guilty of anythign yet, but if they did it, they should be punished as much as ACORN shoudl be.

 

[Texsox]

but hopefully that is true.

 

That I haven't posted?

 

I was just thinking, when we had two pretty s***ty choices, like the last election, when the debate and conversation got to the stupid petty level, no big deal because quite frankly that's probably all they had. But this time I think we have two pretty damn good candidates once the b.s. is cleared away. But all we seem to know is dealing with piss poor candidates and we're back to crap discussions. (and I miss this in a broad sense, not just Soxtalk)

[Rex Kickass]

Oh please. That's like saying for every Arod there is a Juan uribe. Those two aren't even on the same planet. It would take about 50 YPM to make up ACORN in just one state. Note, I am not condoning the stuff that YPm may have done, since they haven't been found guilty of anythign yet, but if they did it, they should be punished as much as ACORN shoudl be.

 

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008...ote-fraud-case/

 

How many Donald Ducks and Mickey Mouses do you honestly think we'll see show up to the polls in November? I'm guessing that number will be awful close to 0. There's a big difference between a crack head turning in a bunch of never to be used fake registrations so that he can get enough money for his daily rock and a guy passing around a petition for a tougher law on sex offenders that wasn't a petition at all, but really having people unknowingly change their voter registration to Republican. That's something that can actually have an effect on things like primary elections.

 

Oh and by the way, those fake voter registration forms that ACORN employees turn in? They're bound by law to submit them, even if they suspect falsified information.

[EvilMonkey]

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008...ote-fraud-case/

 

How many Donald Ducks and Mickey Mouses do you honestly think we'll see show up to the polls in November? I'm guessing that number will be awful close to 0. There's a big difference between a crack head turning in a bunch of never to be used fake registrations so that he can get enough money for his daily rock and a guy passing around a petition for a tougher law on sex offenders that wasn't a petition at all, but really having people unknowingly change their voter registration to Republican. That's something that can actually have an effect on things like primary elections.

 

Oh and by the way, those fake voter registration forms that ACORN employees turn in? They're bound by law to submit them, even if they suspect falsified information.

Sure, they are forced to submit them. but to hold onto them until youget a few thousand, and then into those insert the ones you know are fake but otherwise have regular names, and it is easy to get a bunch to slip thru. if the people are busy looking for Donald Duck, they are going to miss John Jones. That's why the woman in Ohio waited to turn in over 200,000 registrations at one time, to hide the ones they really want to hide.

[Texsox]

Sure, they are forced to submit them. but to hold onto them until youget a few thousand, and then into those insert the ones you know are fake but otherwise have regular names, and it is easy to get a bunch to slip thru. if the people are busy looking for Donald Duck, they are going to miss John Jones. That's why the woman in Ohio waited to turn in over 200,000 registrations at one time, to hide the ones they really want to hide.

 

Because the checking process is different based on how many get turned in. Pretty damn sneaky. Or maybe wait for someone to turn in 200,000, then sneak in your little fraud list while everyone is busy on that big list.

[EvilMonkey]

Whatever, I am done. Republicans are just consumed with hate, and the poor little liberals/Democrats are just glowing with Hope and Change. Let those that do no wrong and see no evil, unless it is perpetrated by a republican, enjoy the sweetness that is Obama and this election season. Enjoy what you get.

[Rex Kickass]

Sure, they are forced to submit them. but to hold onto them until youget a few thousand, and then into those insert the ones you know are fake but otherwise have regular names, and it is easy to get a bunch to slip thru. if the people are busy looking for Donald Duck, they are going to miss John Jones. That's why the woman in Ohio waited to turn in over 200,000 registrations at one time, to hide the ones they really want to hide.

 

The truth is the people suffering the biggest fraud in this is ACORN themselves. They are paying people for voter registrations that are false. These people aren't going to go and vote under those names, and there is absolutely no evidence to point to fradulent voter registrations being used for actual voting. It's some extra work for Secretaries of State to be sure, but the biggest victim is ACORN's bank account. I know what ACORN does when it comes to voter registrations, in terms of how the people who register gets paid. It's very similar to a lot of paid GOTV operations in urban districts. There's no intentional fraud here. Just a chance to give a bunch of people who don't often get the chance to work for money, to get to work for money. And you hope that they do the right thing and get real voters to register. And for the most part, they do. But some people are scammers and are faking the work for their $50, and due to many state's laws, ACORN doesn't get to sift and decide which registrations are real and which are fake.

[BigSqwert]

It's no different than paying someone money to hand out fliers and they wind up dumping them all in the garbage can. They just wanted a quick and easy way to get paid.

[Texsox]

Imagine the fun if ACORN could decide who is real and which are frauds. Start bouncing them Republicans and keeping the fraud and Dems That's what we want