ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (MO2005 @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) How about this deal! I am going out on a limb here... Hanley Ramirez traded to the Whitesox for Aaron Poreda, Josh Fields, and Clayton Richard. Only if by limb you mean every single person in the Florida Marlins organization goes clinically retarded for a day. I would loooove HanRam on the White Sox, but the Marlins chose him to build around (hence trading Miggy). It would take a king's ransom to acquire him. Something along the lines of a Danks/Fields/Poreda/PTBNL(Beckham) would just be the minimum to get them to start talking IMO. He isnt going anywhere, but if he did it would take a massive deal, which we cant afford and shouldnt try to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 12:44 AM) MLBTradeRumors mentioned we may be interested in Mike Lowell. Anyone care to comment on that? I have kind of mixed feelings on the matter. Meh, I think Lowell is underrated if that is possible from someone who plays on the east coast, but if the white sox are interested in him, why not take a flier on Crede for one year? Nobody in their right mind will give him a multi-year deal coming off back surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 05:44 AM) MLBTradeRumors mentioned we may be interested in Mike Lowell. Anyone care to comment on that? I have kind of mixed feelings on the matter. We sign a guy coming off season ending surgery, but not our own Joe Crede. I don't think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 We'll be linked to nearly every "available" 3B, so get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hanley Ramirez? We'd have to trade everyone for him, including Quentin, Ramirez, then probably Poreda. Yeah, no way we get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 06:47 PM) It does cause me a moment of humor and some bafflement about why folks think we need to trade our team away to compete next year. Certainly we can improve, but the names being thrown out there PK, Dye, Thome, Swisher as if they were our problem (s). Players have off years, but that doesn't mean they are bad players. Certainly some might have more trade value than othrs, but what are you looking for in return? That is the question. Where do we need to improve and how can we do it? There are some pretty decent free agents available, etc. But, whatever we do let's not forget we WON the division and that was with some guys having off years and others being injured. I certainly agee we can do better but we did alright this past season. I think it goes to KW's philosophy. The sox have been mostly a softball type slugging team on offense since 2000. The station to station hitting means the sox need 3 hits to eke out a run if they don't get a HR. Depending on HR's alone to score runs won't get a team far in the playoffs. It may get a team to the playoffs, but the sox need a more diverse offense. PK, Dye, Thome are good players. Yet they could also net the sox good players in return who can help change the makeup of the offense [and defense]. I agree the sox did very well this year. But it was mostly based on the new/ unexpected contributors such as Quentin, Alexei, Danks, Floyd. The question is how do the sox supplement, add to this new long term core of the team. With a limited farm system, some vets may be the way to add and get younger/ faster/ a more diverse offense and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) I haven't been this excited about an offseason since 2004 going into the 2005 season. Here are some really important dates: November 3-6. GM Meetings in Dana Point, California. This is where discussions begin to catch fire and a few moves can be already made. November 13th or 14th-. Free Agent filing period begins. December 8-11th- Winter Meetings in Las Vegas, Nevada I hope this helps everyone out. Edited October 25, 2008 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco72 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Oct 25, 2008 -> 11:14 AM) I haven't been this excited about an offseason since 2004 going into the 2005 season. Here are some really important dates: November 3-6. GM Meetings in Dana Point, California. This is where discussions begin to catch fire and a few moves can be already made. November 13th or 14th-. Free Agent filing period begins. December 8-11th- Winter Meetings in Las Vegas, Nevada I hope this helps everyone out. So the question is, does KW strike "early" on the trade market or wait until FA and the Winter Meetings? Given the makeup of the Sox, I think KW has to shed some salary to bring in a real difference maker (or at least make it salary neutral), so I'm thinking a pre-FA period deal. The Sox can add some salary this off-season, but with several needs, it pays to spread that available money out. What I can't decide is if this helps the Sox (more teams to trade with) or hurts the Sox (teams are less aggressive because the can always "wait" to sign available FAs in a few weeks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I can definitely see the Sox going after Huston Street. With the questions surrounding his health [though he threw 20 + innings in Aug. and Sept. after those questions were raised, and threw 10 + innings with a 1.74 ERA in Sept.], he'd likely come cheap in terms of talent. The drop in velocity was only like 1/2 a MPH. His peripherials were solid just like in years past. The A's need to get rid of him, as they put him in set up to end the year and have their new, cheap, closer. They won't pay Street his raise due in ARB. from $3.3 mill. The sox should be able to put up a solid offer, and have him as another backup closer. A bullpen of: Jenks-Closer Thornton-8th Linebrink-8th Street-6th, 7th, 8th Dotel-6th, 7th Richard-Loogy and long man --would definitely be solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 ugh, Street is quite possibly the most overrated relief pitcher in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Oct 26, 2008 -> 09:52 AM) ugh, Street is quite possibly the most overrated relief pitcher in baseball. Agreed, and you dont want to be on the recieving end of a Billy Beane pitcher trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Oct 26, 2008 -> 10:57 AM) Agreed, and you dont want to be on the recieving end of a Billy Beane pitcher trade why worked out pretty well for the braves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 The success Street had over those final 9 outings in the month of September were largely due to him having been stripped of his closing duties. Believe it or not, pitching in middle relief in September for a team that's been eliminated from contention isn't all that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 QUOTE (beautox @ Oct 26, 2008 -> 03:42 PM) why worked out pretty well for the braves Hudson is had Tommy John surgery this year, no? Its more the exception if you look at the pitchers he has dumped or let walk Zito has been more than a dud in SF Mulder is just about out of baseball Harden cant pitch more than 3 games in a row without arm issues Koch completely fell apart Blanton certainly wasnt the pitcher the Phillies thought they were going to be getting, although he has been serviceable Street really was getting lit up like a Christmas tree this year until he was put into a setup role like Kalapse said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Oct 26, 2008 -> 03:02 PM) Hudson is had Tommy John surgery this year, no? Its more the exception if you look at the pitchers he has dumped or let walk Zito has been more than a dud in SF Mulder is just about out of baseball Harden cant pitch more than 3 games in a row without arm issues Koch completely fell apart Blanton certainly wasnt the pitcher the Phillies thought they were going to be getting, although he has been serviceable Street really was getting lit up like a Christmas tree this year until he was put into a setup role like Kalapse said How about Haren, he has been successful too, and blanton had an era near 5 his last season in oakland so he actually improved a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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