witesoxfan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 say that 3 times fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I wonder if Kim Ng is ever going to get a GM job FWIW. But Milwaukee have been pretty good since Melvin took over. I think Seattle would have LOVED to get Pat Gillick back though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Should have went with Ng... Im curious to see how a woman would do running the day in day out of a baseball team, who isnt an INSANE racist old hag.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 If we go with KW instead of typing out Ken Williams, there's not doubt the Mariners fan boards will be using JZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 So, the long wait for Kim Ng continues. Assuming that Amaro Jr gets the Phillies job after Gillick leaves (as most expect him to do so) I’m guessing the next GM opening will be in Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 22, 2008 -> 03:34 PM) So, the long wait for Kim Ng continues. Assuming that Amaro Jr gets the Phillies job after Gillick leaves (as most expect him to do so) I’m guessing the next GM opening will be in Washington. And my guess is Mike Rizzo ends up with that job. How Bowden still has a job there, I don't know. Hasn't exactly been the greatest "people" person there by all reports either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 22, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) And my guess is Mike Rizzo ends up with that job. How Bowden still has a job there, I don't know. Hasn't exactly been the greatest "people" person there by all reports either. As I recall, he is also involved with the bonus money skimming as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 He's going there to collect a paycheck. That's the only reason I would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 27, 2008 -> 08:34 PM) He's going there to collect a paycheck. That's the only reason I would go. Because a struggling franchise has never been turned around before and you wouldn't want to put your name on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 27, 2008 -> 09:26 PM) Because a struggling franchise has never been turned around before and you wouldn't want to put your name on that? How many franchises have you seen turned around when the ownership declares ahead of time that all decisions will go through them and the GM would have less rights there than anywhere else? Basically, ownership is going to make the decisions, therefore he really doesn't have to do much at all. Again, he's just there to collect a paycheck. I'm not knocking him for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Well Seattle should be one of the more attractive jobs out there for a GM anyways. The payroll is always around the 90-100M mark, attendance is usually good, and that team has got some good players and a decent system. Don't forget that the team won 88 games in 2007, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were back around .500 next season if Bedard stayed healthy and they find some more offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 07:54 AM) How many franchises have you seen turned around when the ownership declares ahead of time that all decisions will go through them and the GM would have less rights there than anywhere else? Basically, ownership is going to make the decisions, therefore he really doesn't have to do much at all. Again, he's just there to collect a paycheck. I'm not knocking him for it. I must have missed where Seattle ownership said that. Do you have a source to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 05:39 PM) I must have missed where Seattle ownership said that. Do you have a source to it? http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=sea According to Armstrong, the Mariners' next GM will have less power than Bavasi did -- especially during his fourth and fifth years with Seattle -- and probably have a smaller player payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 10:04 PM) http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=sea So are they going to give Zduriencik less power during his 4th and 5th years or are they going to give him less power than Bavasi had, especially in Bavasi's 4th and 5th years? I assume the latter but that's a terribly written sentence all the same. Regardless, that's honestly too bad. I'd say just tighten the ship up for a while, as any new GM should face, and then let him go out and make calculated decisions. That's usually what happens, especially when you have a good GM at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I’ve been impressed by what I’ve been hearing from this guy so far, and he seems to have a decent idea of what he’s doing. They’ve already assembled a good coaching staff down there, and are establishing a sabermetrics branch for their front office. It’ll be an interesting dichotomy for the next couple years between the stats teams in the AL West (A’s, Mariners), the in-betweens (Rangers), and the big market Angels who seem far less statically inclined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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