bigruss Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Apparently the A's have acquired Matt Holliday, as of now details are not available. From Mlbtraderumors.com sourced Jon Heyman from SI.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCQ Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) Apparently the A's have acquired Matt Holliday, as of now details are not available. From Mlbtraderumors.com sourced Jon Heyman from SI.com Hey wouldnt it be funny if they sent geo to the rocks and he made his way back to chicago in a willy taveras deal???? I would literally laugh, because sometimes you have to to keep from crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 that would be interesting. He's a great player, but the A's aren't that close to contending and they wouldn't resign him, wonder if it's part of a 3-way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The A's have the right idea. They're not falling for this Willy Taveras crap, unless its as a throwin. I have a feeling Matt Murton might be going rocky mountain high which i'd find hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 11:42 AM) The A's have the right idea. They're not falling for this Willy Taveras crap, unless its as a throwin. I have a feeling Matt Murton might be going rocky mountain high which i'd find hilarious. He would be an ideal guy for the Rockies to target. Decent hitter on his own, but also a guy who could be REALLY helped by playing in Coors. I wonder if Chris Carter or Aaron Cunningham winds up in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) He would be an ideal guy for the Rockies to target. I wonder if Chris Carter or Aaron Cunningham winds up in this. I dont see Carter going there because he is more of a DH, but he is such a great hitter maybe Colorado thought he is worth it. I could def. see Cunningham being involved or Gio. Edited November 10, 2008 by bigruss22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 11:48 AM) Wow, Holliday has to be pissed. FA next year, and this is probably the last place he wanted to go to pad his numbers. I'd be inpartial if i were him. Have you seen the pitching in that division? It's terrible... besides the Angles, Seattle and Texas have absolutely horrible staffs... the NL west doesnt have the same problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Greg Smith is rumored to be part of the package going to the Rox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 There's almost no way Holliday won't be a type A free agent, so that has to be part of it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 04:03 PM) There's almost no way Holliday won't be a type A free agent, so that has to be part of it as well. Im guessing three prospects, each one a quality prospect but not a stud, like Smith, Gonzalez, Carter, and maybe a player like Sweeney/Murton (young guys not necessarily a prospect, and im not saying all of those guys, just some combination or a package of guys like that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 ESPN.com reports that the Matt Holliday-to-Oakland deal, which is still pending physicals, includes left-hander Greg Smith. It makes sense that either Smith or Sean Gallagher was going to be involved. The Rockies want major league-ready talent, and the A's probably preferred going that route than touching their top prospects anyway. No word yet on whether Huston Street is in the mix. According to ESPN.com, there are final details still to be worked out, but the trade has been agreed to. My guess is Street + Smith plus another good prospect. Not a bad move by the A's I think. They've got enough good young players ATM, and they can either spin Holliday off at the deadline or get the 2 draft picks for him. His OPS will certainly come down away from Coors though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 "Ken Rosenthal chimes in. The deal may not be finalized for about 48 hours. Players discussed over the weekend: Carlos Gonzalez, Huston Street, and Smith. Rosenthal says the A's do not plan to flip Holliday or trade him in July." -MLBtraderumors.com Hmm, if the A's are planning on competing next year I would think they would need Street, and Gonzalez is a pretty highly touted prospect, seems like the A's are sending over more than I thought they would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 12:14 PM) Hmm, if the A's are planning on competing next year I would think they would need Street, and Gonzalez is a pretty highly touted prospect, seems like the A's are sending over more than I thought they would. The A's are pretty confident right now that they don't need Street, I'd say. Street wasn't any good this year anyway, and they had a couple of other bullpen guys step up and start to fill that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 If Gonzalez is included, I think the Rockies have done pretty well here. They get a replacement for Fuentes, Smith gives them another decent young SP, and Gonzalez could explode in that environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 .880 OPS from Holliday next year, I'm calling it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) .880 OPS from Holliday next year, I'm calling it now. That seems pretty fair considering the difference in parks. Side Note: He had 28 stolen bases last year, with only 2 CS. Thats a nice bonus to his stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The full Fox Sports story has the A's increasing their payroll to $80M and going after Furcal for short and leadoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) The full Fox Sports story has the A's increasing their payroll to $80M and going after Furcal for short and leadoff. Well, that would be a fairly silly way for the A's to spend their money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 ESPN.com stirs the pot with a couple more potential names. Man, it's like Oakland's whole system is up in the air. Pitcher Greg Smith, who was 7-16 with a 4.16 ERA last season for the A's, is one of the players in the deal, a source confirmed to Crasnick. Among the other players who have been discussed were left-handed pitcher Brett Anderson and outfielders Ryan Sweeney and Carlos Gonzalez. Oakland has been weighing offers for closer Huston Street, but it's uncertain if Street is part of the Holliday deal. The Rockies have a need for late-inning relief with Brian Fuentes about to leave through free agency. Ryan Sweeney could look really good in Colorado also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Tim Brown on Yahoo Sports said an A's source says it's Street, Greg Smith, and Carlos Gonzales. Link Edited November 10, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 03:49 PM) Tim Brown on Yahoo Sports said an A's source says it's Street, Greg Smith, and Carlos Gonzales. That would be an incredible package. If this is the case Rockies fans should be quite pleased with the return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 03:01 PM) Thats a s***load to give up for 1 year. This is Billy Beane we are talking about here, last year he gutted the team for prospects, so he has a few to spare I wonder how Beane would fare with a team where he didnt have to slice and sell every other year. Edited November 10, 2008 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) That career .803 OPS on the road for Holliday is hilarious. Edited November 10, 2008 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) That would be an incredible package. If this is the case Rockies fans should be quite pleased with the return. Yup, a pretty good haul, Beane makes up for his rapeage by hendry. Seriously though, the Cubs arent even offering this much for Peavy who is young and signed to a long term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 10, 2008 -> 05:19 PM) That career .803 OPS on the road for Holliday is hilarious. good point. I'd be worried about trading the farm for any rockies slugger. How about buying low on Jimenez or Francis instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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