SoxFan562004 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 More I think of it, the more I hate it... Swish was a solid OBP guy and the Sox are sorely lacking in that area. Now they only have Q and Thome who will more times than not give the lineup a solid AB taking a ton of pitches. Swish should have been hitting 1 or 2 all year, Ozzie didn't use him right. Hope KW has more up his sleeve (which I'm sure he does, I am going into 1st move of the post season panic mode) because starting Fields, Getz, and BA or GOD FORBID Owens doesn't quite do it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) There must be more moves in the works. You don't just give away a guy like Swisher without other stuff in the works. yea. bcuz thats what we did, gave him away. dumped salary i guess lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Wow. Okay, so we're getting more then, right? Right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 At least give me Melky in this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) More I think of it, the more I hate it... Swish was a solid OBP guy and the Sox are sorely lacking in that area. Now they only have Q and Thome who will more times than not give the lineup a solid AB taking a ton of pitches. Swish should have been hitting 1 or 2 all year, Ozzie didn't use him right. Hope KW has more up his sleeve (which I'm sure he does, I am going into 1st move of the post season panic mode) because starting Fields, Getz, and BA or GOD FORBID Owens doesn't quite do it for me I honestly think KW believes the window for this team to compete might be over, and that's why you hear names like Dye, Jenks, Swisher, and Konerko being thrown around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dww879 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Damn, I only got one year out of my Swisher jersey, not a good financial move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) yea. bcuz thats what we did, gave him away. dumped salary i guess lol If we had to dump his salary, then we might as well have a fire sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (sircaffey @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) At least give me Melky in this thing. That would be the only saving grace for me in this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yeah, if we traded Swish for what looks to be a mediocre prospect then KW really f***ed up. We gave up 3 good looking young players for Swish. The money Swish is owed over the next couple years is not a bad thing considering Swish is still young and will most likely play better than last year. There better be more to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Marquez spent some time on the disabled list season, can't find any specifics on the injury but the guy is a friggin' twig (6'2, 175), better not be elbow soreness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Melky's a joke. You do not give away Swisher like this. This is B.S. One down year, and we bail for a bust of an arm? Are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) cant listen live to the score through their website anymore? The link is in the top right corner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:39 PM) Great, so we traded 3 of our top prospects for one year of terrible baseball and nothing in terms of prospects. This also means Konerko is going nowhere. Yeah, this flat out sucks. It was bad enough we paid so highly for Swisher. Now we've ended up trading Sweeney, Gio and DeLosSantos for this guy? Looks like Kenny screwed the pooch on Swisher both coming and going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Like I always say to myself after KWs first move, lets let this play out and see what he is trying to do before we judge this move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 There'll be more to this surely. You don't give up on a guy for just 1 minor league player. And I don't really want Melky, he's regressed offensively. My guess is there's more young pitching to be included in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Marquez isn't one of the top 10 Yankees prospects for 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...&src=sports ^There's an interview with the guy. Anyone know what he's got in his arsenal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) I honestly think KW believes the window for this team to compete might be over, and that's why you hear names like Dye, Jenks, Swisher, and Konerko being thrown around. I highly doubt KW thinks this team needs to be torn apart. If he went into the 08 season thinking he could win the division after 07 there's no way in hell he's going to think different after we just won the division and had 4 young guys put up some very good numbers. Edited November 13, 2008 by Whitewashed in '05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) The link is in the top right corner now. i couldnt find it, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) Like I always say to myself after KWs first move, lets let this play out and see what he is trying to do before we judge this move I agree that KW has earned this, but if the Sox only got this one player than this is a bad move. In his first full 2 years he had an OPS+ of over 120 and he was bad with the Sox last year, but his OPS+ was still 92, below average, but not as horrible as everyone makes it out to be (granted he had a HUGE month that skews that). KW will make more moves, but this is selling low on a good player Edited November 13, 2008 by SoxFan562004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Melky isn't even worth Swisher. It's a bad sign that Marquez was the first guy named too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 If's it just Swisher for Marquez, that's worse than the Marlins/Nationals trade from last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) There'll be more to this surely. You don't give up on a guy for just 1 minor league player. And I don't really want Melky, he's regressed offensively. My guess is there's more young pitching to be included in the deal. no way thats all we get for swish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 This means we are keeping Konerko. s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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