ThunderBolt Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 So in conclusion 2005 was great, and we have mixed feeling on the value of Carl Everett. Anyone have any new thoughts on this Swisher deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:20 PM) So in conclusion 2005 was great, and we have mixed feeling on the value of Carl Everett. Anyone have any new thoughts on this Swisher deal? Hank Steinbrenner just dyed his pubes pink. Go team!!! Do the worm!!! Grinder grinder grinder!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:20 PM) So in conclusion 2005 was great, and we have mixed feeling on the value of Carl Everett. Anyone have any new thoughts on this Swisher deal? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 03:44 AM) no /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) So what happens to this promotion on the Score's website: I don't actually care, but I like the picture. Edited November 20, 2008 by G&T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dinner should still be on him. He's making enough $$$$ to cover for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 would some care to list all the at-bats that were "unlucky?? remember, caught looking on the outside corner K at-bats don't count because the ball wasn't put in play another flaw is that BABIP doesn't remove foulouts out of the equation. How can a batter be considered "unlucky" if he fouls out to the catcher? You can't assume he would get a hit in the same at-bat because there is a least one more pitch to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I unpinned it since it's been a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 05:07 AM) I unpinned it since it's been a week. no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (rangercal @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 04:20 AM) no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 We all have to stop grieving sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 07:52 PM) would some care to list all the at-bats that were "unlucky?? remember, caught looking on the outside corner K at-bats don't count because the ball wasn't put in play a You do realize that Swisher had 497 at bats last year and what you’re asking is completely irrational from a layman’s perspective, right? How about this there are people whose job it is to chart every ball that is hit in one season of Major League baseball. It was those people who upon analyze their results decided Swisher was unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald says the Red Sox burn, lust for, and love Teixeira. Silverman says Tex should end up with a salary of at least $20MM and a term of at least six years. Also, Silverman talked to one source who suggested the Yankees' acquisition of Nick Swisher "could be a prelude to another deal with a National League club." Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News says the Yankees still plan to add an impact hitter. He agrees that "several National League teams have had their eye on Swisher." MLB.com's Mark Bowman says the Braves are among them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 08:20 AM) You do realize that Swisher had 497 at bats last year and what you’re asking is completely irrational from a layman’s perspective, right? How about this there are people whose job it is to chart every ball that is hit in one season of Major League baseball. It was those people who upon analyze their results decided Swisher was unlucky. It was all based on his .251 BABIP. Supposedly, that makes him very unlucky. Well good news, the guy that had a better year than him anyway, the guy who people wanted gone so Swisher can flail away at 58 foot sliders in the dirt and then watch the next pitch go by right down the middle, Paul Konerko, had a .247 BABIP. He was even more unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 22, 2008 -> 07:28 AM) It was all based on his .251 BABIP. Supposedly, that makes him very unlucky. Well good news, the guy that had a better year than him anyway, the guy who people wanted gone so Swisher can flail away at 58 foot sliders in the dirt and then watch the next pitch go by right down the middle, Paul Konerko, had a .247 BABIP. He was even more unlucky. Double that...he was more unlucky, just because he was "unlucky" when he was plagued by three separate injuries and still put up a better number than Swisher. First his hand, then the ribcage pull/tear and finally the twisted knee at the end of the season. Not to mention the fact he's mentioned his "aging" and that for the first time, Konerko's really going to be more conscious about diet, training and conditioning in the offseason. All good omens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) You do realize that Swisher had 497 at bats last year and what you’re asking is completely irrational from a layman’s perspective, right? How about this there are people whose job it is to chart every ball that is hit in one season of Major League baseball. It was those people who upon analyze their results decided Swisher was unlucky. They're also the same people that say a sawoff soft shot to the second baseman is equivalent to a rocket hit down the line. Give me 5 instances of those 350ish at-bats where he was unlucky. Triple that, Konerko had a higher line drive percentage than Swisher as well. Edited November 22, 2008 by santo=dorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 04:32 AM) We all have to stop grieving sometime. I like to think of it more of a celebration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (almagest @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:16 PM) Everett posted an OPS+ of 92 in 2005 -- same as Nick Swisher last year. So if we replace '05 Everett with '08 Swisher, we lose nothing. No. That's why you have to actually watch the games rather than just selectively read the stat sheets to make an accurate judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Everett posted an OPS+ of 92 in 2005 -- same as Nick Swisher last year. So if we replace '05 Everett with '08 Swisher, we lose nothing. Everett also managed to hit .300 (all singles!) with 1 walk, and 3 RBI in 40 postseason at-bats in 2005. Fantastic. You all can have your fond memories of Everett and his majestic 2005 season. I'll live in reality and continue to think he was mediocre, and thank Kenny for getting Thome instead. P.S. We won in 2005 because of pitching. How do you think a 2008 Ryan Theriot would've done if he was the 2005 White Sox DH? Better yet, how would the 2004 White Sox team do with him as the DH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Ozzie said Swisher will not be missed. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Gu...?urn=mlb,124914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I know that's the title of the article, but did Ozzie actually say he won't be missed? From the quotes provided at that link Ozzie seemed a tad more diplomatic than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 QUOTE (3E8 @ Nov 27, 2008 -> 10:00 AM) I know that's the title of the article, but did Ozzie actually say he won't be missed? From the quotes provided at that link Ozzie seemed a tad more diplomatic than that Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. That is a horrible headline because it's misleading. Nothing in that article says that OG is happy there is no more Swish. Thanks Yahoo for skewing this story to make it seem like Ozzie is a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Yeah I should have read through it better(not just read headline),I would like to read the actual Q an A from the Trib if anyone can find that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 When i saw this as the article in pale hose talk I was shocked for a moment. THen I realized I knew about this for 2 weeks and was uncomfortable at my stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Swish better get off to a good start this season. Those fans in NY wouldn't like the Swish we had all but one month last season. What a light-hitting stiff he was for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claydude14 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 The Dirty Thirty Salon can now only offer clean shaves. We thank our customers for their understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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