Steve9347 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:39 PM) The good news is that Betemit on a very similar offensive career path to Crede. In fact, his defense might be a bit better. The kid can handle every position on the field barring C, P, and CF. Don't say that to Kalapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Here are Betemit's numbers from Atlanta in 05 and 06 FWIW; .305/.359/.435 .281/.344/.497 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hopefully this is similar to the Carlos Lee deal. Sign Viciendo or Hudson or someone. Hopefully A lot of our pitching staff is due to KW's eye for diamonds in the rough. Jenks, Floyd, Thornton come to mind immediately. All considered busts when KW got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Could this be one of those moves that now we turn around and deal Fields, Betemit, and Marquez to Baltimore for Roberts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 04:41 PM) Could this be one of those moves that now we turn around and deal Fields, Betemit, and Marquez to Baltimore for Roberts?? The Sox would need to make acquisitions at 3B and CF still in that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:41 PM) Could this be one of those moves that now we turn around and deal Fields, Betemit, and Marquez to Baltimore for Roberts?? It definitely gives us some options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 01:43 PM) The Sox would need to make acquisitions at 3B and CF still in that scenario. Do not count out Brian Anderson yet. KW has traded to open room for him before, and that was before he learned how to hit the occasional major league baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 04:41 PM) Could this be one of those moves that now we turn around and deal Fields, Betemit, and Marquez to Baltimore for Roberts?? How is this any better than Fields, Swisher for Roberts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) Do not count out Brian Anderson yet. KW has traded to open room for him before, and that was before he learned how to hit the occasional major league baseball. I think you must have mistaken him for someone else since he still cannot get an occasional hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:43 PM) It definitely gives us some options. we just have to wait and see what happens. i think this is just the begining of a lot of moves to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I was really hoping for Swish at 1B in '09 where I really liked him. Not sure what the point of this was, but it's early. One half of me says KW has a master plan. The other half remembers his big move last year was... Griffey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:49 PM) The other half remembers his big move last year was... Griffey. You forget we acquired Quentin last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:39 PM) The good news is that Betemit on a very similar offensive career path to Crede. In fact, his defense might be a bit better. The kid can handle every position on the field barring C, P, and CF. Wait... you aren't saying that Betemit would be better at 3B than Crede was in his 2nd year (equivalent to Betemit), are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 04:23 PM) I know for a fact that 3 coaches absolutely hated Swisher and his act. I think I mentioned that a few weeks ago. One coach in particular. Interesting. Never heard that. On one hand it surprises me...but in the overall picture...not really. I somewhat feel sorry for Swish...but he made his own bed. Still think it's a precurser to another deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Konerko, Thome or Dye all should have been traded instead of Swisher Bulls***. f*** Nick Swisher for once and for all. I didn't even realize this: Nick Swisher in 2008 had the worst batting average among players with at least 502 plate appearances, the number needed to qualify for the batting title. I guess we should also gives props to shipps and BearSox (although he called the deal bad more on what we gave up) for their original thoughts of the Swisher trade at the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Nick Swisher in 2008 had the worst batting average among players with at least 502 plate appearances, the number needed to qualify for the batting title. Not only that, but he was 9 points worse than the next closest... And White Sox fans never once booed the bastard. Think what Yankee fans will do to him! Edited November 13, 2008 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 04:50 PM) Wait... you aren't saying that Betemit would be better at 3B than Crede was in his 2nd year (equivalent to Betemit), are you? Nah, but i can see Betemit being a good deal better than Crede has been since his back troubles set in. Betemit will be more than tolerable, he won't be 2006 Crede certainly, but he'll be more than adequate assuming his bat kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:51 PM) Bulls***. f*** Nick Swisher for once and for all. I didn't even realize this: I guess we should also gives props to shipps and BearSox (although he called the deal bad more on what we gave up) for their original thoughts of the Swisher trade at the beginning. BA is a horrible stat to rate a players offensive production. Not saying Swish lit the world on fire, but Swisher will never have a good BA, he's not that type of hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Now that I know the trade is legit, I will say that PEDs was not the only issue Swisher had off the field. For his sake, I hope he cleans up his act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 i still hate this. we will regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 BA is a horrible stat to rate a players offensive production. Not saying Swish lit the world on fire, but Swisher will never have a good BA, he's not that type of hitter. I agree about BA, but there's a difference between not having a good BA and being worst in the MLB by nearly 10 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 01:54 PM) Now that I know the trade is legit, I will say that PEDs was not the only issue Swisher had off the field. For his sake, I hope he cleans up his act. Yowza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 04:44 PM) Do not count out Brian Anderson yet. KW has traded to open room for him before, and that was before he learned how to hit the occasional major league baseball. I don't consider BA anything more than a 4th OF at this stage. The Sox will need better offensive production in terms of BA at least from their CF next season, and I don't think BA fits the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:54 PM) i still hate this. we will regret it. He will likely fall back into his 06 and 07 numbers playing 1st base with the NYY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) Yowza. you said it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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