Balta1701 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 08:32 AM) Reading the entire article The Nats don't have money to make a play for Manny, but are front runners for Teixeira? If Boras would represent me, I'd hire him in a minute. Hello Grad School with a $100,000 guarantee and no TA load One player doesn't work on a small or medium payroll, this isn't basketball. No matter if he's "worth" $20 mil per year or not. With a new ballpark and potentially a solid-looking fanbase there in D.C. (I think lobbyists will survive the economic downturn quite well), they probably have a decent amount of money to spend if they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I think Tex is a nice player and all but I would never give him 20 million a year let alone for 10 years. Id offer more around the 14-16 million range especially if Im going to give him that 10 year security blanket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 This goes under the "other bits" subheading... ESPN reporting NYY will offer CC 140m, but they're not saying how many years, also saying they will make big offers to Burnett and Lowe. Kind of expected it, but now it's being reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 01:33 PM) I think Tex is a nice poster and all but I would never give him 20 million a year let alone for 10 years. Id offer more around the 14-16 million range especially if Im going to give him that 10 year security blanket. Thanks. I know y'all like my posts and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I just don't think first basemen, unless they're Albert Pujols or Lou Gehrig -- incidentally, Pujols is on pace to be a much greater player than Gehrig, when all's said and done -- deserve all that money. They're first basemen! Teix hits well for extra bases but his career line is inflated by Texas and he's losing homerun power, however young he is. I just don't see where all this "Oh, Mark Teixeira!" swooning comes from by GMs. And I don't think Carlos Lee deserved a 100 million dollar contract, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 02:55 PM) incidentally, Pujols is on pace to be a much greater player than Gehrig, when all's said and done -- deserve all that money. Pujols will never be greater than Gehrig until he averages 140-150 RBI a season for 8 straight seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) Pujols will never be greater than Gehrig until he averages 140-150 RBI a season for 8 straight seasons. Yep and just as soon as you get him in the middle of a lineup with 5 other Hall of Famers (1 of which is Babe Ruth) on a team with a .380 OBP he'll do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 04:00 PM) Yep and just as soon as you get him in the middle of a lineup with 5 other Hall of Famers (1 of them being Babe Ruth) on a team with a .380 OBP he'll do just that. Pujols would have had 200 RBI in a season with that lineup. If he had ANY protection, he'd average 160. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Gehrig is a great, great player beyond RBI, but Pujols is on pace to be the greatest first baseman of all-time. Of course, "pace" does not mean "guaranteed," but the point remains that Pujols is absolutely incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) I think the greatest stat about Pujols is his K numbers. He is not only one of the best power hitters in the league, but he doesn't K a billion times a year like other power hitters. Between 50-60 K's for a player now a days is incredibly low for any type of hitter. He's no Joe DiMaggio though... Also, I love that Pujols doesn't sacrifice average for power like a lot of hitters. It amazes me that a lot of people don't see him as the best player in baseball still. As for Tex, he is a great player as well. However, I'm trying to figure out how he hits lefties with his right handed stance/approach. If I were him, I'd stick to only lefty, but for some reason he still put up as good, if not better splits, right handed. Edited November 16, 2008 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) Let's not pretend that Pujols isn't on HGH. Edited November 16, 2008 by Milkman delivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Nov 15, 2008 -> 10:39 PM) It amazes me that a lot of people don't see him as the best player in baseball still. Best offensive player, probably. Best position player, I'm with DukeNukeEm and going with Hanley Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 12:17 PM) With a new ballpark and potentially a solid-looking fanbase there in D.C. (I think lobbyists will survive the economic downturn quite well), they probably have a decent amount of money to spend if they want to. I know you're probably joking here but a large chunk of the DC job market is gov't employees and contractors. That would include me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 08:52 PM) Some things are more important than money, one of them is not playing for an organization like the Nats. They won't be terrible forever. Offering lol money to someone could also attract pieces that wouldn't have even considered the thought of playing for the Nats. My gut, and if I were a Nats front office type would be to throw such sums around, but not at Tex. If say for instance Manny were 3, even 2 years younger I wouldn't wait one second before I made him an offer he couldn't refuse, on this, the day of my daughters wedding. I haven't looked at any numbers so my shot in the dark opinion that he'll be Paul Konerko two years before Paul Konerko became Paul Konerko (sans that one s***show season). I would look elsewhere to throw Ft. Knox at someone if I were the Nats... I would look long and hard because a good major FA signing would work wonders in terms of accelerating their future. If they were set to throw gold at someone, and Soriano was locked up for a few more years, that would be a pristine situation to work with as a GM. You need pitching? Worst comes to worst flip Alf for some, and use the economy that you were going to indulge Tex in on two guys instead of one. There are/were many ways out of their hole. I don't think they'll be bottom dwellers for *too* much longer. f*** Hendry for offering an asanine deal to Soriano...It could have gotten interesting in our nation's capitol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't it be smarter to invest 200 million in like... making your team good? Rather than spend it all on one guy? Am I wrong here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 16, 2008 -> 01:21 AM) Let's not pretend that Pujols isn't on HGH. I have the same suspicion. I also believe he's probably a little older than he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 200 mil for Teixeira? No way he's going to be worth that for the next 10 years. With the Pujols/Gehrig comparity, I don't like to compare players from vastly different eras like they played. It's hard to say what each player would do in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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