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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 02:22 PM)
I initially thought it was a no-brainer also, but is there actually a chance some team will sign him with less than a half year of AA experience and leave him in the majors all year?

Some team like the Marlins or Nationals might do it. I wouldn't take the chance, unless we've got something better that needs protecting.

 

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 02:22 PM)
I initially thought it was a no-brainer also, but is there actually a chance some team will sign him with less than a half year of AA experience and leave him in the majors all year?

 

With his K numbers, he might strike out 250 times at the major league level if he played a full year.

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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 12:43 PM)
Macdougal was just outrighted to Charlotte. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i belive that's another one bites the dust off the 40.

Does that mean he cleared waivers completely? Guess no one wanted to pay him the rest of that contract.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 02:46 PM)
Does that mean he cleared waivers completely? Guess no one wanted to pay him the rest of that contract.

Heh, I guess we weren't getting anything in trade for him then.

 

He could still elect not to take the outright, and go out as a free agent, right? My question is, if he does decline the assignment, is his contract null and void? Or does a signing team get his current contract?

 

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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 02:43 PM)
Macdougal was just outrighted to Charlotte. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i belive that's another one bites the dust off the 40.

 

Correct. That reduces the number of players on the roster to 32.

 

32! Pretty interesting. Makes me wonder which 8 players fill the slots.

 

 

 

Official release.

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QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 01:00 PM)
My guess is that Mac cleared waivers without anyone claiming him, so they outrighted him to Charlotte rather than releasing him (and eating the contract).

 

All of which leads me to believe he will be traded pretty soon.

I can't imagine how we could possibly trade him if he cleared waivers and no one grabbed him.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 03:02 PM)
I can't imagine how we could possibly trade him if he cleared waivers and no one grabbed him.

 

I think he'll be part of a deal, not a stand alone trade.

 

Besides, people clear waivers all the time and still get traded.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 03:54 PM)
Heh, I guess we weren't getting anything in trade for him then.

 

He could still elect not to take the outright, and go out as a free agent, right? My question is, if he does decline the assignment, is his contract null and void? Or does a signing team get his current contract?

I believe the contract is null. He doesn't get a dime.

D. Outright Assignment to Minor League club

 

(1) Election of Free Agency-3-Year Player

 

Any Player who has at least 3 years of Major League service and

whose contract is assigned outright to a Minor League club may

elect, in lieu of accepting such assignment, to become a free agent.

In the event that such Player does not elect free agency in lieu of

accepting such assignment, he may elect free agency between the

end of the then current Major League season and the next following

October 15, unless such Player is returned to a Major League roster

prior to making such election.

 

(2) Election of Free Agency-Second Outright Assignment

 

Any Player whose contract is assigned outright to a Minor

League club for the second time or any subsequent time in his career

may elect, in lieu of accepting such assignment, to become a free

agent. In the event that such Player does not elect free agency in lieu

of accepting such assignment, he may elect free agency between the

end of the then current Major League season and the next following

October 15, unless such Player is returned to a Major League roster

prior to making such election.

 

(3) Effect of Free Agency Election

 

A Player who becomes a free agent under this Section D shall

immediately be eligible to negotiate and contract with any Club

without any restrictions or qualifications. Such Player shall not be

entitled to receive termination pay. Such a free agent shall receive

transportation and travel expenses in the same manner as he would

if he had been unconditionally released except he shall be limited to

receiving travel expenses to his new club if he reports to it directly,

provided such expenses are less than to his home city.

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I can't imagine how we could possibly trade him if he cleared waivers and no one grabbed him.

They could wait to see him clear to see if the Sox will pay a significant part of that contract for a player. If a team put in a claim on him the Sox would've had them responsible for his guaranteed $3 million.

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Originally posted by larry at SSS:

a reminder of the (notable) players who would require protection. sox 40 man currently stands at 32.

 

brandon allen

derek rodriguez

jon link

david cook

carlos torres

john lujan

wes whisler

mike macdougal

 

the above is also the order in which i would protect.

 

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QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 04:15 PM)
I believe the contract is null. He doesn't get a dime.

 

The sentence prior to the one you highlighted is the operable phrase. The player is unencumbered and free to contract.

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