bmags Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 jiminy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 08:26 PM) From mlbtraderumors.com Unless KW has a master plan with free agency, he really shouldn't go through with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 01:26 PM) From mlbtraderumors.com I dont see this having alot of legs at this point at all. I think it was an older report before yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Why would yesterday's trade change things? We still need a CF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 An interesting part of the Atlanta deal is that by jumping the gun with a good offer for us, they may well have prevented the Mets from getting better via the trade route. There's always talk of those teams in the NL east trying to make sure they don't let the other teams build up an advantage. Wonder if that played a role in getting the Vazquez deal done; now the Mets and Sox are much worse matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 08:34 PM) An interesting part of the Atlanta deal is that by jumping the gun with a good offer for us, they may well have prevented the Mets from getting better via the trade route. There's always talk of those teams in the NL east trying to make sure they don't let the other teams build up an advantage. Wonder if that played a role in getting the Vazquez deal done; now the Mets and Sox are much worse matches. good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Unless you got Pelfrey, Murphy and Martinez for those 2, I don't think any trade with the Mets is worth it, to be frank. And Minaya can just go out sign Abreu and K-Rod, and not have to give up any of those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) Unless you got Pelfrey, Murphy and Martinez for those 2, I don't think any trade with the Mets is worth it, to be frank. And Minaya can just go out sign Abreu and K-Rod, and not have to give up any of those 3. Which is probably what the Braves would prefer they do, because that pretty much forces them to overspend at a time when the economy is tanking and their new ballpark is about to be renamed "Seized by the U.S. government field" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) DBAHO, with this economy teams are hesitant to go and sign FAs. The money isn't there this year, especially considering what K-rod is asking for. Edited December 3, 2008 by chunk23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) An interesting part of the Atlanta deal is that by jumping the gun with a good offer for us, they may well have prevented the Mets from getting better via the trade route. There's always talk of those teams in the NL east trying to make sure they don't let the other teams build up an advantage. Wonder if that played a role in getting the Vazquez deal done; now the Mets and Sox are much worse matches. I thought this from the start-wish we could do something like this to the Twins or Indians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox_fan Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Part of Jermaine's limited no-trade clause lists the Mets as one of the teams he will not go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) DBAHO, with this economy teams are hesitant to go and sign FAs. The money isn't there this year, especially considering what K-rod is asking for. K-Rod may have to settle for 3/35. I think the Mets would still jump all over him for that. They've got some contracts coming off the books themselves (e.g Pedro Martinez). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 07:28 PM) Unless KW has a master plan with free agency, he really shouldn't go through with this. We would be giving up a lot that's for sure and I don't think it's a great deal for us to be making. For the Mets maybe but not the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) If we are giving up Jenks and Dye... I want Beltran in part of this deal. This is from October and probably means nothing but hell...October 10, 2008 The New York Mets will be willing to listen to offers for center fielder Carlos Beltran, according to MetsBlog.com. Edited December 3, 2008 by EvilJester99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) If we are giving up Jenks and Dye... I want Beltran in part of this deal. This is from October and probably means nothing but hell...October 10, 2008 The New York Mets will be willing to listen to offers for center fielder Carlos Beltran, according to MetsBlog.com. Beltran would be nice...but I can't see Kenny taking him on at $18.M per year for 3 more years. $8.5 million of Beltran’s salaries in the 2008-2011 seasons are being deferred and paid to him after the contract expires...so even if the Mets would pick up the deferments that's still over $15.5 a year...which in itself isn't unreasonable IMO if he produced big numbers. But realistically speaking...it think it would be more along the lines of Fernando Martinez and others like was stated before by others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Once again, Dye isnt going to NY. Its in his no trade agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 It doesn't mean he won't go there, but it means that he'd have to agree to it beforehand and could demand that the Mets either pick up his option or negotiate an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:24 PM) Once again, Dye isnt going to NY. Its in his no trade agreement. I bet he would go if the Mets exercised his 2010 option. Sometimes it seems you are more likely to be traded with a NTC than without. Edited December 3, 2008 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 This deal isn't happening. The Mets are more likely to go after Kerry Wood than to trade a lot of their prospects for Jenks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Ok, Ill just keep reason out of this thread, its obvious everyone falls in love with ESPN reports and how accurate they are. (considering even today they have JoJo Reyes as part of the Javy deal) Edited December 3, 2008 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (CWSOX45 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:36 PM) This deal isn't happening. The Mets are more likely to go after Kerry Wood than to trade a lot of their prospects for Jenks. I read an article or 3 from NY papers a couple of weeks ago, and Jenks was about option #6 for the Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dye likely wouldn't agree to a deal to the Mets. But I could see Jenks going to them. Would the Mets part with Martinez for him? And would the sox do it? The same question could be asked of Pelfrey? Would the Mets do a swap of Jenks for Pelfrey and would the sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 09:40 PM) I read an article or 3 from NY papers a couple of weeks ago, and Jenks was about option #6 for the Mets. That was before they started hearing about what Fuentes and KRod were asking for. Those reports also said Putz [who likely wouldn't be deal] and Wood were above Jenks. The Mets are only going to accept a top notch closer, or their fans will riot. They might have to overpay in terms of dollars or prospects to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:40 PM) I read an article or 3 from NY papers a couple of weeks ago, and Jenks was about option #6 for the Mets. I don't necessarily think it's the idea of Jenks or Dye that the Mets are enamored with, but rather the fact that they can do some one-stop shopping and get both players in one deal. They probably save by doing this, whether it is financially or in terms of other resources (or both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (beck72 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:46 PM) That was before they started hearing about what Fuentes and KRod were asking for. Those reports also said Putz [who likely wouldn't be deal] and Wood were above Jenks. The Mets are only going to accept a top notch closer, or their fans will riot. They might have to overpay in terms of dollars or prospects to get it done. K-Rod's contract demands have gone down. The article also stated the Mets were not too thrilled with Jenks' declining strikeout rates. I'm sure they are the odds on favorite to land K-Rod. The Mets will wait it out. You know if K-Rod gets a 4 or 5 year offer from another team, they will bring it back to the Mets. Who that other team may be, I have no idea. Could be the White Sox if they trade Jenks. Edited December 3, 2008 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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