Cubano Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) RHP Yadel Martí and RF Yasser Gómez were banned for life and won't play baseball anymore. Marti was selected the best RHP during the WBC # 1. He was the starting pitcher against the Dominican Republic. They both played for the Industriales Lions also known as the Blues or Azules. Blue means azul. Spanish http://mlb.mlb.com/es/news/article.jsp?ymd...sp&c_id=mlb Edited November 22, 2008 by Cubano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 hey cubano.... how likely is it that these two players have the opportunity to try escaping again? what do you think their life will be like now in cuba? i'm glad we have you here on the board - your insight and contributions are great! thank you friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 The White Sox could get in trouble (wouldn't it be tampering?) but how difficult would it be to get a world-class speedboat from one of Ozzie's Miami or Venezuelan/Caribbean connections and spirit Marti out of the country? Of course, that doesn't mean the White Sox could just sign him without any problems...but you have to think we'd have a 95% chance to get any Cuban defecting at this point, lol. This isn't an elaborate strategic planning mission like the Bay of Pigs, just takes a little coordination. How heavily defended is the coast by Cuban patrol boats? Would they try to kill/shoot him if he was leaving on a boat, with orders from the Castro regime? Is he going to be under some type of "house arrest" or have to wear an ankle bracelet with GPS tracking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCQ Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 11:45 PM) The White Sox could get in trouble (wouldn't it be tampering?) but how difficult would it be to get a world-class speedboat from one of Ozzie's Miami or Venezuelan/Caribbean connections and spirit Marti out of the country? Of course, that doesn't mean the White Sox could just sign him without any problems...but you have to think we'd have a 95% chance to get any Cuban defecting at this point, lol. This isn't an elaborate strategic planning mission like the Bay of Pigs, just takes a little coordination. How heavily defended is the coast by Cuban patrol boats? Would they try to kill/shoot him if he was leaving on a boat, with orders from the Castro regime? Is he going to be under some type of "house arrest" or have to wear an ankle bracelet with GPS tracking? You have a death wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (TCQ @ Nov 22, 2008 -> 02:37 AM) You have a death wish I guess I have an "adventuresome" spirit, lol. I've lived in the presence of drug lords, Mafia and soldados (soldiers) for one year in Colombia and was kidnapped and drugged. My wife is Russian, and I would never go anywhere in Russia or the Ukraine without her...10X more dangerous than Colombia, which has a somewhat undeserved reputation (although another female teacher in my school was robbed and has a knife wound on her cheek as a souvenir). Maybe this also comes from my seven months in China and frustration with repressive/autocratic governments!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 11:45 PM) The White Sox could get in trouble (wouldn't it be tampering?) but how difficult would it be to get a world-class speedboat from one of Ozzie's Miami or Venezuelan/Caribbean connections and spirit Marti out of the country? Of course, that doesn't mean the White Sox could just sign him without any problems...but you have to think we'd have a 95% chance to get any Cuban defecting at this point, lol. This isn't an elaborate strategic planning mission like the Bay of Pigs, just takes a little coordination. How heavily defended is the coast by Cuban patrol boats? Would they try to kill/shoot him if he was leaving on a boat, with orders from the Castro regime? Is he going to be under some type of "house arrest" or have to wear an ankle bracelet with GPS tracking? Its a complicated situation. MAJOR LEAGUE PROBLEMS: BASEBALL’S BROKEN SYSTEM OF CUBAN DEFECTION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) By the way, does anyone know when the Viciedo press conference is scheduled today? What about his physical? Has he already passed that or taken it? There are also many conflicting stories about the length of the contract....is it four years or five? Edited November 22, 2008 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 22, 2008 -> 12:45 AM) How heavily defended is the coast by Cuban patrol boats? Would they try to kill/shoot him if he was leaving on a boat, with orders from the Castro regime? Is he going to be under some type of "house arrest" or have to wear an ankle bracelet with GPS tracking? Nowadays, it is more difficult to be in the business of going to Cuba in speed boat and bring some people. Since Mr. Tricky Clinton began deporting Cubans and September 11th, many Cubans have gone to trial for human trafficking. Obviously, I do not see it that way. Cubans are controlled by the government by all means. You can not dissent against the government. You economic situation is miserable. You can not change the system because if you try, they expel you from your job, school, etc. Cubans began to bring people from México instead from the USA. Then, Cubans crossed the US border. This trip cost you easily $10,000. The problem with México now is that the Mexicans began to control this business. Cubans doing this in México had stopped this I believe. The Mexicans doing this can kill you in no time. Recently, México signed an immigration agreement with Cuba to deport all Cubans who arrive in México. I am sure that some Cubans still do this from the USA. I am sure baseball players are in high demand. These guys won’t play baseball anymore 99 % sure. They had to wait some time until the government forgets. Recall that when Livan Hernández defected, the Cuban government banned Orlando Hernández. El Duque had to work in a psychiatric hospital. They won’t be arrested. In the past, if you were caught leaving, you went to jail for 4 years. The Cuban prisons are full. Edited November 22, 2008 by Cubano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I can't wait until Cuba finally becomes a free country. This is terrible that not only these guys got caught, but they can't even play baseball anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 22, 2008 -> 02:41 AM) I guess I have an "adventuresome" spirit, lol. I've lived in the presence of drug lords, Mafia and soldados (soldiers) for one year in Colombia and was kidnapped and drugged. My wife is Russian, and I would never go anywhere in Russia or the Ukraine without her...10X more dangerous than Colombia, which has a somewhat undeserved reputation (although another female teacher in my school was robbed and has a knife wound on her cheek as a souvenir). Maybe this also comes from my seven months in China and frustration with repressive/autocratic governments!!! I am not traveling to Rusia, Colombia, Mexico and other countries. My wife and I always wanted to go to Mexico, but we are concerned about the bad news coming from this beautiful country. I like to remind you guys that the Dodgers were disciplined by the Baseball Commissioner for smuggling two Cuban players in the 90's. 1B Juan Diaz and outfielder Josue Perez. I believe there is a Gentlemen Agreement since the Orioles went to Cuba between MLB and Cuba about not to encourage defections. The Orioles publicly stated that they would not sign Cuban defectors. Rolando Viera sued MLB to become free agent in the USA. http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2001/0709/1224184.html Edited November 22, 2008 by Cubano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Yadel Marti Yasser Gomez is the batter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvZFN8xyowg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) The Cubans leave looking for freedom and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The Cuban Revolution is a big lie. The whole world has lived a romantic affair with the Cuban Revolution. Edited November 22, 2008 by Cubano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I think Cuba is a diamond in the rough, only being held back by their own government. If Cuba was a free society, it would be a wealthy nation purely from tourism. It has so much potential. I find it inconceivable that the US has allowed a communist nation to exist for half a century just 50 miles from it's shore. We should lift the ban on trade because we could kill the Castro regime with kindness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Economic liberalization ftw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Damn. I forgot I was still in PHT. This isn't the place for this discussion. It belongs in the 'Buster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Looks like they were trying to leave from Júcaro, Ciego de Ávila. They were trying to reach the Caymand Islands. Then, go to Mexico to reach the USA or any other country. Spanish http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story...&type=story Map of Cuba http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/country...lor/cucolor.htm Edited November 22, 2008 by Cubano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Was it El Duque or Contreras who got busted trying to leave Cuba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) When Livan left, the government banned his half brother El Duque. RHP Jose Ibar, who started against the Orioles in Havana, was caught leaving and banned from baseball as well. He used to play for the Havana Cowboys. Edited November 23, 2008 by Cubano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 The word on the Cuban streets is that there recieved some phone calls from USA. They were caught 70 miles in their trip. The Cuban government eavesdrop on your phones. They can do whatever they want to do to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3798491 Get that phone ready, Kenny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Sorry but when I opened the link I was expecting story about the Cubs. HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Hmmm; Cuban right-hander Yadel Marti and outfielder Yasser Gomez have defected and are in an unknown location before attempting to reach the Dominican Republic to seek an MLB career, sources told ESPNdeportes.com. It seemed like only a matter of time. Both were kicked off their team, Industriales de la Habana, earlier this year, likely for plotting to leave the country. Marti was Cuba's best pitcher during the 2006 WBC, but he wasn't given the chance to participate in the Olympics this year. The 29-year-old may not be cleared to play in 2009, but he'll likely get a significant major league deal once he becomes a free agent. Gomez, 28, isn't likely to be pursued as heavily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
266344 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Cuban right-hander Yadel Marti and outfielder Yasser Gomez have defected and are in an unknown location before attempting to reach the Dominican Republic to seek an MLB career, sources told ESPNdeportes.com. It seemed like only a matter of time. Both were kicked off their team, Industriales de la Habana, earlier this year, likely for plotting to leave the country. Marti was Cuba's best pitcher during the 2006 WBC, but he wasn't given the chance to participate in the Olympics this year. The 29-year-old may not be cleared to play in 2009, but he'll likely get a significant major league deal once he becomes a free agent. Gomez, 28, isn't likely to be pursued as heavily. Source: ESPN.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) They just need a MLB team based in Havana and all this will end Edited December 29, 2008 by knightni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Could be interesting. Has anyone seen who is pursuing either of these guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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