Dog Fighting

[Kyyle23]

I agree with you in a sense.Though, I am against torturing as a whole , I believe we in America put dogs at such a high pedestal that sometimes dogs have more rights than human beings, which is ridiculous. They are animals and should not have more rights than a human being.

 

 

If someone with a sick taste of food killed a dog for food, I would not have a problem with it. However, most Americans would. To me, a dog should have no more rights than a cow or a pig.

 

See, thats just not right, dogs dont have more rights. If Michael Vick did something to a person that equated to what he did to those dogs, he would be on death row.

 

Every night Animal Planet reruns Animal Cops and Animal Precinct, all you have to do is watch 1 show and you know that dogs and cats dont have anywhere near the same rights as people, people will damn near starve a dog to death and can have the dog returned to them if they promise to feed it and take better care of it.

 

And I would like to state that i dont believe Dogs and Cats should have equal rights to people, but I do believe there should be laws designed to protect dogs and cats from people who abuse them.

[NorthSideSox72]

Hunting and dog fighting are not even close.

Agree.

 

If one hunts a deer, assuming they aren't some sicko, they kill it as quickly as possible. And they use or sell or donate the meat, fur, etc., if they are worth their salt. That is being a carnivore, as most humans are.

 

Torturing animals for sport is sick and wrong.

 

[Heads22]

Agree.

 

If one hunts a deer, assuming they aren't some sicko, they kill it as quickly as possible. And they use or sell or donate the meat, fur, etc., if they are worth their salt. That is being a carnivore, as most humans are.

 

Torturing animals for sport is sick and wrong.

 

There is a program in Iowa called HUSH (Help Us Stop Hunger). If you take a deer and decide you don't want the meat, you can take it to a locker and they will donate it to help feed the prison system.

[Rowand44]

I'm pretty sure someone from this site had this idea before but how about just putting some of these pit bulls in a room with Michael Vick. That works for me.

[Whitewashed in '05]

He also killed a dog with his own hand by slamming him on the ground multiple times for under performing... sick. I mean with his own hands he made a dog suffer and die. I think when he gets out he will have done his time and paid for his sins.

 

I know pet lovers who said he should've got life which I completely disagree with. I mean 3 years of his life are wasted and he is basically broke when he gets out. I think that's enough justice. He has a slim chance with a career in sports when he gets out, though I do think he will make some money whether its a incentive based contract in the NFL or Arena football or something, but he'll never be anywhere near as wealthy as he once was.

[Buehrle>Wood]

" A white man gets a rifle and shoots deer, that's a sport. A black man fights dogs and that's a crime"-- Cris Rock.

That comment was meant as a joke, but seriously, isn't hunting just as bad???

 

I guess torture would be worse but they are still just animals. The difference of hunting for sport(perfectly acceptable and not even thought about) and dog fighting(severe jail time and pretty much ruin your life) really is extreme though.

[Steff]

They are just animals... animals who can tell you when they are hungry, have to pee, and show discomfort when they are sick. They also greet you when you come home, comfort you when you are sick/sad, and show fright, pain, and happiness. How hunting an animal that does not depend on a human for it's existance and tourturing one that is capable of showing respect for the human that takes care of it are even mentioned in the same breath makes no sense to me.

[GoodAsGould]

They are just animals... animals who can tell you when they are hungry, have to pee, and show discomfort when they are sick. They also greet you when you come home, comfort you when you are sick/sad, and show fright, pain, and happiness. How hunting an animal that does not depend on a human for it's existance and tourturing one that is capable of showing respect for the human that takes care of it are even mentioned in the same breath makes no sense to me.

 

I guess you have never seen bambi

[BigSqwert]

It takes a sick mind to torture and kill animals. A mind like Jeffrey Dahmer.

[mr_genius]

Agree.

 

If one hunts a deer, assuming they aren't some sicko, they kill it as quickly as possible. And they use or sell or donate the meat, fur, etc., if they are worth their salt. That is being a carnivore, as most humans are.

 

Torturing animals for sport is sick and wrong.

 

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Edited November 24, 2008 by mr_genius

[YASNY]

He also killed a dog with his own hand by slamming him on the ground multiple times for under performing... sick. I mean with his own hands he made a dog suffer and die. I think when he gets out he will have done his time and paid for his sins.

 

I know pet lovers who said he should've got life which I completely disagree with. I mean 3 years of his life are wasted and he is basically broke when he gets out. I think that's enough justice. He has a slim chance with a career in sports when he gets out, though I do think he will make some money whether its a incentive based contract in the NFL or Arena football or something, but he'll never be anywhere near as wealthy as he once was.

 

Vick's wealth, or lack thereof, should not even be part of the discussion. He had the world by the short and curlies and screwed it up himself.

[southsider2k5]

See, thats just not right, dogs dont have more rights. If Michael Vick did something to a person that equated to what he did to those dogs, he would be on death row.

 

Every night Animal Planet reruns Animal Cops and Animal Precinct, all you have to do is watch 1 show and you know that dogs and cats dont have anywhere near the same rights as people, people will damn near starve a dog to death and can have the dog returned to them if they promise to feed it and take better care of it.

 

And I would like to state that i dont believe Dogs and Cats should have equal rights to people, but I do believe there should be laws designed to protect dogs and cats from people who abuse them.

 

The child welfare system in this country isn't any different. It is a daily occurence where kids get neglected or abused by partents who are drug addicts, who get them back after saying they will take better care of them, feed them etc.

[Kyyle23]

The child welfare system in this country isn't any different. It is a daily occurence where kids get neglected or abused by partents who are drug addicts, who get them back after saying they will take better care of them, feed them etc.

 

Isnt any different? Or shows some of the same characteristics?

 

[southsider2k5]

Isnt any different? Or shows some of the same characteristics?

 

You said animals have no rights, kid basically have no rights either.

[Kyyle23]

You said animals have no rights, kid basically have no rights either.

 

you know what, I dont even want to start this semantics argument. It isnt the same, and we both know it, but I dont want to argue it.

 

[Texsox]

We do place different values on different animals. We routinely kill rats with little regard to the method. City workers in Chicago would club them to death, not certain how they do it today. Then we have the animals that are tasty. A modern slaughter house is not cruelty free by any means. But when that nice roast or steak is on the table, do we really worry about how the animal lived and died? Hint: Most of the time, a deer lived a better life and died easier than a cow or steer brought to market. Then we have the billion dollar industry for pets. Cute little coats, painted toe nails, groomers, walkers, beds, gourmet food, you name it and the sky is the limit for some animals. Finally we have humans that had the misfortune to be born in poverty, or in the wrong country, or of lesser intelligence. They may suffer from a mental or physical defect. Often times their lives are no better, or even worse, than many animals.

 

No answers. The scale is difficult to balance.

[longshot7]

 

He and I vote for death for dogfighters. Joey Porter is a f***ing idiot - you don't have to change the dog breed to travel. I tell people "American Staffordshire Terrier", which is one of the technical names, so people don't worry. But you don't HAVE to change the breed on any forms - and it's all listed on the dog's health certificate anyway.