jasonxctf Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws not reading 18 pages to see if this was already posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think Lillibridge as nothing more then a utility/situational player after I've seen him play and looked at his minor league stats. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the league doesn't think too highly of Lillibridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:46 PM) Also, Lillibridge's inclusion is kind of odd. How many MIF prospects do we need? Maybe some of the posters really aren't dreaming and we really are after Peavy? Or else we're after Roberts, or something. Or, as someone else suggested, the Sox plan to move Lillibridge to CF. It will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. It wasn't really that long ago when we had pretty much NO infield prospects. Danny Richar and some scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:44 PM) I don't know if it has been mentioned, but I guess Flowers got busted for PED's in 2006. I really hope that his positive test results are from him taking some sort of supplement that he didn't realize was on the banned list. If it's Lillibridge, Flowers, and Morton, that's a great deal. If it's Lillibridge, Flowers, Morton, and another player, damn this was a hell of a deal. As most people know, I have been in favor of keeping Vazquez, but when you practically get 4 for 1 (I don't count Boone, he was as good as gone), and 3 of those 4 are players like Lillibridge, Flowers, and Morton, that's a good ass deal. Anyone ever think we might see a platoon of Getz and Lillibridge at 2B? He showed very good power this year in the AFL so I don't think it's much of an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:44 PM) I don't know if it has been mentioned, but I guess Flowers got busted for PED's in 2006. I really hope that his positive test results are from him taking some sort of supplement that he didn't realize was on the banned list. If it's Lillibridge, Flowers, and Morton, that's a great deal. If it's Lillibridge, Flowers, Morton, and another player, damn this was a hell of a deal. As most people know, I have been in favor of keeping Vazquez, but when you practically get 4 for 1 (I don't count Boone, he was as good as gone), and 3 of those 4 are players like Lillibridge, Flowers, and Morton, that's a good ass deal. Anyone ever think we might see a platoon of Getz and Lillibridge at 2B? Yeah I don't count Logan either. He's got a great arm and has a chance to be a dominant setup man, basically doing for us close to what Damaso Marte did back when he was the hottest s*** around, but there was no chance in hell Boone was going to do it here. He needed a change of scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:46 PM) was just coming here to post this after watching mortons highlights....his stuff is good...good curve, flashed a good change, and even threw a slider in there at 84...stuff and delivery wise reminded me alot of gavin but with less tail to the 2 seamer...looked like he was already throwing a cutter...from what i saw i liked this kid more than boone logan thats for damn sure http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/media/video....74&c_id=atl Agree. The velocity thing is good only if there are secondary pitches to go with it. If we do get him, then this isn't another Masset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) He showed very good power this year in the AFL so I don't think it's much of an issue. Well, lets hope his power is a result of working hard in the weight room, and not finding a new PED that, as of now, is undetacble by urine tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 If we get 4 players back and three of them are Morton, Lillibridge and Flowers then I'm gonna throw a party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:51 PM) Well, lets hope his power is a result of working hard in the weight room, and not finding a new PED that, as of now, is undetacble by urine tests. this type of thing is usually only available to monied people (Bonds, Sheffield, Marion Jones, Tim montgomery etc.). So unless he has personal connection I would doubt it but in today's sports world, I hope KW did the due diligence. Unless of course he just uses this guy in a package to trade for Peavy then who cares!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) It wasn't really that long ago when we had pretty much NO infield prospects. Danny Richar and some scraps. Yeah, that is what is so odd. And actually, back then Shelby was still a 2B prospect. So of our 3 best 2B prospects, we traded one 2B, moved another to the OF, and kept Getz. Now Getz is at the bottom of the long-term depth chart, or near it at least, so talk about a turn-around in the span of little more than one year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 So are we getting three players back or four? I can't wait until we hear the official word. If we receive a four-player package, then this is an excellent trade IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I would be ecstatic if we got Morton, Lillibridge and Flowers. I'd also have to make Morton my avatar, since we share a last name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Sox It To Em @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 09:56 PM) So are we getting three players back or four? I can't wait until we hear the official word. If we receive a four-player package, then this is an excellent trade IMO. sox website now says we are getting 4 back...so thats what im going to assume...it also sounds as if 2 of them are certainly going to be lillibridge and flowers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 7:42pm: O'Brien believes Chicago's return to be Flowers, Lillibridge, third baseman Jon Gilmore, and pitcher Santos Rodriguez. 7:05pm: MLB.com's Mark Bowman says the White Sox will actually receive four players in the deal. They'll choose from a list of five, with Flowers and Lillibridge their top targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:55 PM) Yeah, that is what is so odd. And actually, back then Shelby was still a 2B prospect. So of our 3 best 2B prospects, we traded one 2B, moved another to the OF, and kept Getz. Now Getz is at the bottom of the long-term depth chart, or near it at least, so talk about a turn-around in the span of little more than one year... I really like it. A strong farm system, and in so little time, who knew? We actually have bullets to make real trades now if we wanted. We still have holes to fill at the MLB level now obviously but it's only December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) I think Lillibridge is a very good player who we were fortunate to pick up on a bounce. Scouting reports suggest he profiles as an ideal #2 hitter. 10-15 homerun power with above average OBP potential. Serious wheels... 40-50 stolen bases per year. Very good defensive SS with a plus arm. (One report called him 'Khalil Greene lite with better OBP'.) He moved through the minors pretty quickly, but hit a snag this year moving back and forth between AAA and the majors. Maybe this turns out to be a Kenny-special. Edited December 3, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 i was really liking the idea of having morton be our next floyd. i hope we get him still... although, i know nothing about these other names. /me shrugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Anyone know anything about Gilmore and Rodriguez? Are they legitimate prospects or throw-ins? Edited December 3, 2008 by Sox It To Em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 gilmore was a sandwich pick just a year ago out of high school....and he hit .337 last year in rookie ball...0 plate discipline but the kid is still only 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:02 PM) I really like it. A strong farm system, and in so little time, who knew? We actually have bullets to make real trades now if we wanted. We still have holes to fill at the MLB level now obviously but it's only December. Hey now, I am on record several times on this site saying Kenny could turn our system around almost instantly simply by trading our veterans...not many agreed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 here's Santos' page on milb.com. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I'm still hearing Morton, although those two are on the "list". KW wants a starter in return as well. BTW, our vacant 2B spot has an open competition between Lilli, Getz and Nix. Pretty good talent there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 santos is a 20 year old reliever who was in rookie ball last year and had a pretty sick K rate...45 K in 29 IP in 2008 (to go along with 0 HR), and 35 K in 28 IP in 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Rodriguez: http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/...ds/?pl_id=84385 Gilmore: http://www.baseballhandyman.com/2008/08/sl...ore-3b-atl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 10:07 PM) I'm still hearing Morton, although those two are on the "list". KW wants a starter in return as well. BTW, our vacant 2B spot has an open competition between Lilli, Getz and Nix. Pretty good talent there. a package of Flowers, Lillibridge, Morton and Gilmore would be a just a great package IMO Edited December 3, 2008 by daa84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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