Steve9347 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Just thought you'd like to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 You have nominated yourself to tell us when he says anything of importance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 Stone talked about Bobby and JD going to the Mets in a Fernando Martinez deal. Martinez is better than Carlos Gomez and has tremendous power potential. Didn't say the likelihood of the deal. A guy he doesn't think would be in the deal is John Niece, but he'd love if the Sox got him, and he thinks the Sox WOULD get Bobby Parnell if a deal were consumated. Pretty much nothing, heading to phone calls after a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 11:09 AM) Stone talked about Bobby and JD going to the Mets in a Fernando Martinez deal. Martinez is better than Carlos Gomez and has tremendous power potential. Didn't say the likelihood of the deal. A guy he doesn't think would be in the deal is John Niece, but he'd love if the Sox got him, and he thinks the Sox WOULD get Bobby Parnell if a deal were consumated. Pretty much nothing, heading to phone calls after a break. Thats usually funny with Stoney. It almost always starts with Cubs calls, then trickles to White Sox calls. There is one jilted Cubs fan that tries to get a shot or two in on Stone for calling games with him, I usually catch him once or twice a month while listening to B&B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 11:09 AM) Stone talked about Bobby and JD going to the Mets in a Fernando Martinez deal. Martinez is better than Carlos Gomez and has tremendous power potential. Didn't say the likelihood of the deal. A guy he doesn't think would be in the deal is John Niece, but he'd love if the Sox got him, and he thinks the Sox WOULD get Bobby Parnell if a deal were consumated. Pretty much nothing, heading to phone calls after a break. Hmmm, would EVERYONE on here like to know the likelihood of that deal? http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/met...story?track=rss THURSDAY: David Lennon of Newsday talked to a source who said there's "nothing there" in regard to the rumor of a Dye and Jenks to the Mets blockbuster. Joel Sherman talked to a few Mets officials who called the rumor nonsense. Sherman says Martinez is "all but untouchable." Seriously, put it to rest. You too Stoney. With Putz now on the market as well as Valverde, KW would have to be retarded to shop Bobby. Wait until he is one of 2 good closers on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 11:15 AM) Seriously, put it to rest. You too Stoney. With Putz now on the market as well as Valverde, KW would have to be retarded to shop Bobby. Wait until he is one of 2 good closers on the market. I was just posting what Stone said, not saying I thought anything would happen. Someone can delete this waste of thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Later in his conversation with Holmes/Hampton, he said he thought the likelihood of a Dye-Jenks deal with the Mets was not high. In fact, he questioned where the rumor even came from. Then he introduced a rumor of his own... said he wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox talking to St. Louis... offering minor league pitching prospects for Colby Rasmus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 heh...the cards absolutely love rasmus...i seriously doubt we even have enough minor league pitching to get him, the cards want him playing everyday by the end of this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 01:29 PM) heh...the cards absolutely love rasmus...i seriously doubt we even have enough minor league pitching to get him, the cards want him playing everyday by the end of this year I'd do Jenks/Dye for Rasmus/Perez. The Cardinals, however, wouldn't. I wouldn't put much stock in the theory, though i love Stoney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 12:26 PM) Later in his conversation with Holmes/Hampton, he said he thought the likelihood of a Dye-Jenks deal with the Mets was not high. In fact, he questioned where the rumor even came from. Then he introduced a rumor of his own... said he wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox talking to St. Louis... offering minor league pitching prospects for Colby Rasmus. I had heard that St. Louis would be more likely to trade one of their guys who played at the MLB level last year to free up space for Rasmus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 12:29 PM) heh...the cards absolutely love rasmus...i seriously doubt we even have enough minor league pitching to get him, the cards want him playing everyday by the end of this year Stoney also said that as a result of our last two drafts and recent deals that the Sox had quite a bit of nice young pitching. I think we're going to hear more people saying that soon too. Outside of Poreda, there aren't any high ceiling guys at upper levels, but we're starting to stockpile some talent at lower levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 KW just got done with a 1/2 press conference, Rogers will be on with B & B soon (sounds like after 2:30) to relay what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 01:26 PM) Later in his conversation with Holmes/Hampton, he said he thought the likelihood of a Dye-Jenks deal with the Mets was not high. In fact, he questioned where the rumor even came from. Then he introduced a rumor of his own... said he wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox talking to St. Louis... offering minor league pitching prospects for Colby Rasmus. I've give up quite a bit to get Rasmus, but I doubt the Cards will trade him (more likely to get rid of Ludwick or Ankiel first I would have thought). Still if you offered Poreda and more prospects for him, I wonder what the Cards would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 KW said Vaz trade was focused on future more than Vaz's struggles last year. KW said at this moment he might go to ST with 4 and 5 as is and have an open competition with the young guys (I would hate that) Winter meetings might be slow for Sox. Will look at CF/leadoff spot but indicated everyone is looking for that and would be dificult. Would be suprised if another veteran is moved. He will let GMs come to him. If OC accepts arbitration he will be a backup, Ramirez going to SS and one of the young guys to 2nd. High on Flowers and Lillibridge, thinks there's mechanical problems with Lillibridge's swing that they will fix. Looked to get younger and athletic this offseason. FWIW Rogers said he doesn't think they'll bring in any FAs. Actual tape of KW saying he will "be in listening mode" B & B think it's a smokescreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 02:38 PM) Actual tape of KW saying he will "be in listening mode" B & B think it's a smokescreen. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Capuano and Daniel Cabrera are potential non-tender candidates, and KW loves to pick off the scrap heap... After last year's Hunter incident of course KW is going to say he doesn't plan on doing anything. Him telegraphing the moves were what led to it not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It better be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 whats the deal with cappuccino? get him and caberra - throw them into the 5th starter competition. bring it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 10:26 AM) Later in his conversation with Holmes/Hampton, he said he thought the likelihood of a Dye-Jenks deal with the Mets was not high. In fact, he questioned where the rumor even came from. Then he introduced a rumor of his own... said he wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox talking to St. Louis... offering minor league pitching prospects for Colby Rasmus. I don't think the Sox have the minor league pitching prospects out there to obtain Rasmus. Plus teams rarely do prospect for prospect deals, although the Sox have done some in the past (Carter for Quentin.....McCarthy for Danks). Still, the Cards love Rasmus so the only way he's coming here is in a deal involving one of our better players or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I know I should know better, but KW better be bluffing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I can't say I like what Kenny is saying, with the exception of the Flowers/Lillibridge part. Otherwise nothing said that gets me excited, going to just have to hope its a smokescreen due to what happened last year at the winter meetings where he got bit in the butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 even the comment about OC being a back up... its posturing to get him to decline arbitration. if he accepts, there is now way he isnt starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Ditto I hope so too. I don't have an overall problem with what KW has done this offseason since I think he has another move or two in him, but if this is the team he comes with to ST I would be a little dissapointed (or if he added a token piece like Taveras). the 4 and 5 starters would be complete question marks, and i know they were last year with Floyd and Danks, it's hard to rely on that year after year and then count on Danks and Floyd to be at the level they were at last year. I'm a little nervous about the team right now, but I am in the camp he's putting up smoke screens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) even the comment about OC being a back up... its posturing to get him to decline arbitration. if he accepts, there is now way he isnt starting. I agree with that. They made the point that OC isn't a high end Type A free agent and some teams might be shy to sign him since they have to give up picks... another comment they aired saying Javy wasn't a money deal, more about the team getting younger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 ain't nothin' but a smoke screen baaaaaby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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