caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 “The negativity is never good," Vazquez said at his news conference in Atlanta. "I’ve always been a big believer in being positive, especially in professional leagues. You’ve got a lot of negative things going on, so you always try to be positive. "I’m a positive guy, try to be positive all the time. I’m glad to be here in Atlanta." Vazquez declined to say anything bad about Guillen. "The only thing I’m going to say is it’s good to get away from the negativity and start fresh," Vazquez said. "I like the city, like the stadium. I’m a flyball pitcher, so this park, I think suits better with the type of pitcher I am. I’m looking forward to pitching here." chicagotribune.com/sports Well, when I read the headline, I thought it would/could be worse. Ozzie and former Sox players have been extremely "cordial" to each other the past couple of days. Nobody being thrown under the bus, must be something in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm a positive guy, too. I'm positive Javy will never be more than a .500 pitcher who will crap himself in big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm positively sure that "He Gone!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 good riddance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 They babied him the whole time he was here until the very last week of the regular season. The only negativity was from his preformances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Good, now ATL can see how he wets the bed in big games. Peace out Javy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2008 -> 07:47 AM) They babied him the whole time he was here until the very last week of the regular season. The only negativity was from his preformances. Am I the only one who remembers how big of a positive reaction he seemed to get back in 2006 when he put together a really good game late in the season against Toronto? And there was this moment when we thought he might finally have found that groove, so everyone was cheering him on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2008 -> 12:13 PM) Am I the only one who remembers how big of a positive reaction he seemed to get back in 2006 when he put together a really good game late in the season against Toronto? And there was this moment when we thought he might finally have found that groove, so everyone was cheering him on? No...I remember that well. People were clamoring about him being our "ace". I'm not gonna say I'll personally miss Javy. I'll miss his 200 innings he brought every season. You always had a 50/50 chance with him when he went out and prayed he could get past that one bad 5th or 6th inning. The frustrating thing was you always knew he never really turned out to be all he could be. It's hard to be negative or hatin' on a guy that was a consumate professional for our team. I'm not gonna say "good riddance" or anything. Just good luck Javy...and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 The negativity was a direct result of his s***ty performances, this should really be obvious. When he pitched well, which was probably more than half the time, there was no negativity. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I hated him as a player here but he didnt say anything bad. Im glad hes gone, but his comments dont warrant anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Dec 6, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) I hated him as a player here but he didnt say anything bad. Im glad hes gone, but his comments dont warrant anything. I think I'm just disappointed that he seems to have forgotten how positive many of us tried to be behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Especially after 2006, when he struggled so mightily to get through the 5th and 6th innings. A couple of those games still stand out, one when I was in Peru and following through Internet against TOR (not a good game, to say the least!) The other was the GS by Craig Monroe (I'm pretty sure it was Monroe) in DET. That game was a dagger, and an omen of things to come later in the season. For some reason, Aardsma's walkoff gopher ball to Thames stands out, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Javy gets a lot of unfair hate here. Was he a stud? No. He was solid who had shown flashes of brilliance and some flashes of s***. Yeah, it was frustrating, but we will miss him in the rotation. I like the return we got for Javy, but I am very scared about our rotation. We have no 4 or 5 starter, and I don't count "No Stuff" Richard, but hopefully Poreda could step up in ST and be a solid 5th starter for us. Plus, I think it's very possible to see a regression of one of, if not both, Danks and Floyd (I'm not saying they overachieved, but young pitchers, and young players for the most part, will hit a wall. It might happen, it might not, but don't be shocked if it does). And Buehrle is always a question mark. I'll miss Javy, but I'm happy with the return we got. Also, Javy is much more of a national league pitcher as he isn't just a pitcher, but a baseball player who likes to hit and be a part of both sides of the game. Both sides should be happy, and people calling him s*** and such, that's just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I never was a big Javy fan... but our rotation could be pretty awful this year, I hope we don't miss him come summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 12:28 AM) And Buehrle is always a question mark. In what world is MB always a question mark? He has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the MLB for 8 seasons now. You know he's going to give you 30+ starts, 200+ innings, and an era under 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 01:48 AM) In what world is MB always a question mark? He has been one of the most consistent pitchers in the MLB for 8 seasons now. You know he's going to give you 30+ starts, 200+ innings, and an era under 4. At this point in his career, and with his velocity declining, I'd say he's a question mark. But then again, I've neverb been as high on Buehrle as everyone else is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) If he's truly a question "mark," give me four more Question Marks in our rotation and we'll have the 2009 AL Central Division Championship Banner to fly right next to 2008, 2005 and 2000. Edited December 7, 2008 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Buehrle a question mark??? Except for the second half of 2006, he's been the opposite of question mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) At this point in his career, and with his velocity declining, I'd say he's a question mark. But then again, I've neverb been as high on Buehrle as everyone else is. I'm going to get one of my friends to photoshop a picture of the "radar gun police" for all these times when people on the board flip out about nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) Except for when Jon Adkins, Felix Diaz, Nick Masset, Jon Rauch, Jim Parque, Lorenzo Barcelo, Danny Wright or Bobby Jenks are pitching, lol. Then the radar gun has some relevance. Edited December 7, 2008 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 09:50 AM) Except for when Jon Adkins, Felix Diaz, Nick Masset, Jon Rauch, Jim Parque, Lorenzo Barcelo, Danny Wright or Bobby Jenks are pitching, lol. Then the radar gun has some relevance. In the article he said he was a flyball pitcher. Javy may be more effective in Atlanta. that is ok. He gave us a lot of inning did a lot of starts struck out a lot of hitters. He's still young I say good luck to him. We were helped more than hindered by his presence on the mound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) At this point in his career, and with his velocity declining, I'd say he's a question mark. But then again, I've neverb been as high on Buehrle as everyone else is. His average fastball velocity in 2008 was the highest it's been in 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (3E8 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:18 AM) His average fastball velocity in 2008 was the highest it's been in 3 years Dont use these facts to muddle things up. Bearsox has seen his stuff, and thats all he needs to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:37 AM) Dont use these facts to muddle things up. Bearsox has seen his stuff, and thats all he needs to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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