wilmot825 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I read all during the playoffs that Orlando Hudson was on the Sox radar. He fit their needs at 2nd and leadoff, so what the eff happend? Is he asking for too much, is that why? Im just curious to whats up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (wilmot825 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 02:36 PM) I read all during the playoffs that Orlando Hudson was on the Sox radar. He fit their needs at 2nd and leadoff, so what the eff happend? Is he asking for too much, is that why? Im just curious to whats up. A lot of teams are backing off Hudson because of injury. Not sure about the Sox’s though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 He wants like 4/40 or 5/50, and with Beckham waiting, I don't think they want to pay a middle infielder that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Money, age, lenght of contract, injuries, glut of middle infielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 money, age, and defense not great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Also, Rafael Furcal appears to be a more attractive option to a lot of teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Players arent going to get their demands this year, with this economy. Furcal wanted 4/52 and only recieved offers in the 4/35-40 range. Hudson wont get 40 or 50 mil. Hes most likely looking at 3/24 or 4/36 tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggliopipe Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) money, age, and defense not great ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 01:41 PM) money, age, and defense not great You must really set the bar high for a player to be good defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) money, age, and defense not great Umm, are you sure you know who Orlando Hudson is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 02:35 PM) Umm, are you sure you know who Orlando Hudson is? Right before he posted this, we were having a discussion of 2B zone ratings in another thread. Turns out Hudson was near the bottom of MLB second baseman this year in that measure. Could have been due to injuries that limited his range and effectiveness. But it does bring into question whether his defense is or will be as good as it was in the past. I believe that's what Chisox2334 was referencing when he made that comment. Edited December 7, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 The Mets are desperate to move second baseman Luis Castillo to create a spot for free agent Orlando Hudson. Rosenthal's latest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Could Hudson potentially be a CF? Stoney i think mentioned this on his blog. Also Alexei to CF remains possible. To one day make room for Beckham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Ramirez' top value to this team remains at SS or 2B because of his "plus" offensive numbers there, probably not 3B or CF. Beckham will most likely end up at 2B, or possibly 3B...although it would be great if either Beckham (or Lillibridge) stayed as "pure" shortstops, the belief is that the position might be too much for him to handle at the major league level. Of course, the same arguments are being used about Flowers remaining at catcher, where he would obviously have the most value to the White Sox or any other organization. Viciedo will most likely end up in LF/RF/1B/DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 sceanrio you are correct and I indeed know who hudson was. I just believe that money and years he wants that he will not live up to that and we will be kicking ourselves in the end. I wishe we had hudson back in tor 3-4 yrs ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 05:02 PM) Viciedo will most likely end up in LF/RF/1B/DH. Madre de dios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Second base is not a place of need for us right now, we have plenty of options. So we don't need a $10 million second baseman when we have cheap options that are solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) Could Hudson potentially be a CF? Stoney i think mentioned this on his blog. Also Alexei to CF remains possible. To one day make room for Beckham. We always talk about converting players to certain positions. I say we just stick with putting guys where they're used to playing and where they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 06:08 PM) Second base is not a place of need for us right now, we have plenty of options. So we don't need a $10 million second baseman when we have cheap options that are solid. Who? The 5 guys who have about 15 MLB AB's between them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 And converting a somewhat delicate/fragile thirtysomething player into a CFer and risking a hamstring or other injury (diving into a wall, ala Rowand), isn't the brightest idea in the world, especially at 4-5 years and $40-50 million. Lillibridge will never be the player Hudson is, but we could get something of an approximation of the same or similar results at a fraction of the cost in CF. I think that's KW's thinking on this at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 06:13 PM) Who? The 5 guys who have about 15 MLB AB's between them? And after this season they'll have about 615 MLB at-bats between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 07:13 PM) Who? The 5 guys who have about 15 MLB AB's between them? Betemit, Lillibridge, Getz, Nix I still feel the long-range plan here is Beckham, which is why you haven't seen the White Sox and Hudson connected in a single story. Which undoubtedly means his signing will be announced tomorrow in Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 07:13 PM) Who? The 5 guys who have about 15 MLB AB's between them? About 15 At Bats? Getz- 10 ABS Nix- 56 ABS Lillibridge- 80 ABS Betemit- 1098 ABS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I don't believe anyone in the Sox organization ever mentioned Hudson. It was all writers speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I just don't see with the log jam of infielders that white sox are going to spend the money on a furcal or hudson. Who could easily show their age and injury issues come in. We did that with pods already and you don't want to get burn paying money to guys like that. I just hope that ozzie decides to teach this team fundementals. I am more worried about how we going to lay down a bunt, actually do a run down correctly, and of course teach the pitchers how to stop runners stealing on the catcher all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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