RockRaines Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 07:00 PM) Wandering around the blackjack tables, maybe? He's in his "hospitality suite" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 7:00pm: Yahoo's Jeff Passan says the Indians have also discussed a Tejada trade with the Astros. The Indians' interest depends on how much they spend on a closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 02:00 AM) Second tier position players are going to see a huge drop in offers as well. Which helps us out ALOT. Â Yep. Probably harder to deal Dye though. Dusty seems to be a big fan of Dye, hopefully that deal is still alive. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 07:00 PM) I picture Hahn following KW like that assitant on Entourage. Â Rick!Get me a f***ing bag of s*** right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Reds are close to trading Freel to the O's. I think a move like that opens salary room for them and is a possible prelude to the Dye-Bailey move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Just an indication on how the FA market has fallen, NY papers report that Mets initial offer to K-Rod was 2y/$25M (plus option). Pretty incredible considering he was seeking 5/$75M. Makes me wonder about where the market for corner OF'ers and second-tier SP will be. These guys better sign quickly or there could be a collapse in the market and there will be a lot of 4-7 million dollar players gettin 2-3 mil. KW was ahead of the curve again to save some salary so he could buy in the down market just like he was ahead of the PED crackdown. We have a very good GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 08:16 PM) Reds are close to trading Freel to the O's. I think a move like that opens salary room for them and is a possible prelude to the Dye-Bailey move. Except the rumor is Freel for Hernandez who makes $8M next year, even if the Orioles picked up half of his '09 salary the Reds would still be adding $1M in payroll rather than subtracting from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 07:16 PM) Reds are close to trading Freel to the O's. I think a move like that opens salary room for them and is a possible prelude to the Dye-Bailey move. Rosenthal is reporting a Freel for Henandez swap. That won't open any salary unfortunately. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot more sellers than buyers. I'd be very nervous if I were a 2nd tier free agent like Crede, Uribe, or Cabrera. See Rosenthal 7:50 Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 07:26 PM) Rosenthal is reporting a Freel for Henandez swap. That won't open any salary unfortunately. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot more sellers than buyers. I'd be very nervous if I were a 2nd tier free agent like Crede, Uribe, or Cabrera. See Rosenthal 7:50 Update  speaking of Joe...what's the poop on his back/rehab?........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Will the O's acquiring Freel open them up to trading Roberts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) Will the O's acquiring Freel open them up to trading Roberts? Why would getting a CF open up the 2B spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 07:38 PM) Why would getting a CF open up the 2B spot? Â Freel plays IF as well as OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) Why would getting a CF open up the 2B spot? Their outfield is full (Scott-Jones-Markakis) if they acquire Freel with intent of playing him everyday (I doubt that's what they're doing) he's either gonna have to platoon with someone or play 2B/3B with one of Mora/Roberts going elsewhere, Freel has played plenty of infield in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Roberts makes no sense for the Sox now with all of the 2nd baseman in our system. There's a better chance of Roberts ending up in the other part of Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Not to mention acquiring him would drain our suddenly respectable farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (Jimmywins1 @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 01:47 AM) Not to mention acquiring him would drain our suddenly respectable farm system. Â Yep, and it would be for one year, and I doubt he'd sign an extension in this baseball economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 08:49 PM) Yep, and it would be for one year, and I doubt he'd sign an extension in this baseball economy. Â He'd be a perfect 1 year stop gap before Beckham is ready. The problem is not the 2nd basemen in the system, it's the players the O's will ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (G&T @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 02:51 AM) He'd be a perfect 1 year stop gap before Beckham is ready. The problem is not the 2nd basemen in the system, it's the players the O's will ask for. Â You don't give up the players we'd have to for Roberts for him to be a stop gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Where did I ask in my query that I wanted the Sox to get him? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 07:44 PM) Roberts makes no sense for the Sox now with all of the 2nd baseman in our system. There's a better chance of Roberts ending up in the other part of Chicago. Â Nix is an "old prospect", Lillibridge is a question mark, Betemit seems more like a utility player, and Getz is unproven (although looked good in limited play last year). I wouldn't mind seeing what Getz can do, but I'd rather move some pieces for a proven All-Star who is a leadoff man. Problem is the price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It's too quiet on the Kenny Williams front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 09:01 PM) It's too quiet on the Kenny Williams front. It's too quiet on every front. I'm bored out of my mind, right now. I'd even take the Peavy trade at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 08:01 PM) It's too quiet on the Kenny Williams front. Â I think the Dye to the Reds thing is dead. Â I'm thinking the Sox won't do anything this week. Nothing is going to happen until Teixeira and Sabathia sign, and then the dominoes will fall. If Teixeira leaves the Angels, maybe they will get into discussions about Konerko or Dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 peter gammons reports that ozzie talked to dye and said he wont be traded and is needed for this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Dec 9, 2008 -> 01:59 AM) Nix is an "old prospect", Lillibridge is a question mark, Betemit seems more like a utility player, and Getz is unproven (although looked good in limited play last year). I wouldn't mind seeing what Getz can do, but I'd rather move some pieces for a proven All-Star who is a leadoff man. Problem is the price tag. Â If those players aren't good enough to be considered starters, then KW's trades deserve even more scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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